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Changing cards next month

newhit said:
Oh, i'm so glad somebody has at last pointed that out.

Regarding the Vram argument. Doesn't the lack of muscle in the GPU lend weight to having the extra 2Gb of Vram on a 4Gb card to allow the caching of the graphics load to therefore achieve the required extra framerate, i.e., smoother gameplay?

Just asking :D
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No, it doesn't work like that.
 
Indeed. The extra VRAM which you have to pay a premium for incidentally is effectively wasted as it can't be utilised unless you want to run in frame rates in the 20's.

This is related to 2/4GB cards not AMD's 3GB offering which take the debate out of the question by shipping with 3GB.

It is close, I admit but I personally feel that to get playable frames I have 500MB of "wriggle room" in Surround on the VRAM front which is enough to cope with any future game before I upgrade again.

One thing not mentioned is that the mass majority of PC gamers have 2GB or less VRAM. Also we've only just to the point where 1GB simply is not enough.

Even in a worst case scenario and I do end up VRAM limited but not GPU power limited I can easily drop the most VRAM hogging setting and then I'll be fine again. I don't think this will happen (infact I think it's extremely unlikely) but anyone is guessing when they're talking about the future. If you plot a graph of VRAM max settings usage over the last 10 years you'd need the curve to jump up very sharply to render 2GB cards obsolete all of a sudden.

I'm not happy I can't run max settings but the only option to do that would be to move to the X79 chipset and get another 680 (more GPU power) which is not something I want to do right now.
 
gregster said:
But do they offer the same superior service? I will pay a little extra to know I am buying from a reputable company.
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I have not had to use there "superior service" but based on from what i've read from other forum members i know i am in safe hands when i buy from ocuk and i'm more than happy to pay that little extra to have peace of mind. And knowing i have support from some very knowledgable forum members is a massive plus for me and time saving, a quick 2 minutes to make a post and recieve an answer can save hours of trawling the net to solve an issue. And then of course theres the harribo to chew on whilst your installing your shiney new hardware.... Priceless!
 
Nickolp1974 said:
I have not had to use there "superior service" but based on from what i've read from other forum members i know i am in safe hands when i buy from ocuk and i'm more than happy to pay that little extra to have peace of mind. And knowing i have support from some very knowledgable forum members is a massive plus for me and time saving, a quick 2 minutes to make a post and recieve an answer can save hours of trawling the net to solve an issue. And then of course theres the harribo to chew on whilst your installing your shiney new hardware.... Priceless!
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Twice I have had to call on OcUK for a problem and both times it has been problem free. So many times I read people who have bought from other retailers and have had nothing but problems with RMA or even DSR.
 
It's true. You sometimes have to pay a large premium for the CS though! I had an order recently from a retailer in Bolton for 2 XL2420T's, a GB Z77-UD3H mobo, case fan, GB GTX 680 Windforce and a couple of other bits and bobs... £100 cheaper there. Not even on sale. It was even more expensive to buy it all with OcUK and the monitors from the B grade section :confused:
 
Thats the same place i usually buy from Rusty! i just find the best price, even on the 670's im looking at, i won't be buying from ocuk :( they are overpriced.
 
humbug said:
If you want to get into an understanding then its you who really need brush up on whats what.

As i said before 2Gb of vRam is fine at normal res, just a year ago 1GB of vRam was fine. And thats no longer the case is it?

Have a look at this user with the newly release Crysis 2. its using close to 3GB of vRam http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=227936&highlight=2gb+vram

Just one screen @ 2560x1600, and 60+ FPS, but lucky for him he has a 3GB 7970.

Just because its ok today is no measure of it being ok tomorrow, its foolish to think it is, the amount of texture in games is increasing all the time, single screens are becoming bigger with higher resolutions. nothing stays as it is, if it did we would still be fine on 1GB cards for 1080P.
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2 things... first off he's using 16XAA and 2nd just because a card reports a usage of 2.75GB it doesn't mean it NEEDS 2.75GB

I routinely had 2.4GB of usage in BF3 on a 3GB card @ 1080p, but I'm now running 2GB cards at 2560x1440p and not having any VRAM induced slow downs

you can't just show a screenshot of a game using more than 2GB and call that a VRAM limit... it needs to be backed up with FPS's dropping in to single figures and/or severe stuttering to be called a VRAM limit (much as tommy did on his heavily modded skyrim thread - that's a VRAM limit - what you've posted simply isn't)

by the time 2GB is a limit then there'll be a whole new raft of cards out, and as I've discovered, upgrading every gen is less costly in the long run than holding on to old gen kit and having to dump it to buy new
 
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Rusty0611 said:
It's true. You sometimes have to pay a large premium for the CS though! I had an order recently from a retailer in Bolton for 2 XL2420T's, a GB Z77-UD3H mobo, case fan, GB GTX 680 Windforce and a couple of other bits and bobs... £100 cheaper there. Not even on sale. It was even more expensive to buy it all with OcUK and the monitors from the B grade section :confused:
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Ditto,
I saved over £100 on my monitors from there and I got the Triple stand thrown in aswell. :D

Always good to have good CS but you always seem to pay over the odds for it.:(

I use this place a lot as its local and they price match most of the time :)
 
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