Changing from 1080 to 4K - Projector

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Has anyone bothered upgrading yet?

I see JVC for example now has a 4K 50K:1 model out at under £3000.

Quite tempting? My screen is 10', i feel the additional resolution (despite up-scaling of my 720 and 1080 content) would add quite a bit to the image. I have never seen one in action, all i really have to go on is 720 scaled content looking smoother on a 1080 display than it does on a 720 native display.

Thoughts?

My current 1080 projector cost more than that in its day, how technology has moved on :)
 
JVC don't have any native 4k projectors at the moment? Only Sony. I've seen eShift in action and honestly it's not really worth it, if anything it gives D-ILA a slightly more filmic look reminiscent of DLP but doesn't IMO give an improvement in sharpness/detail/any qualities typically associated with higher resolution.

Problem is still content at the moment, having said that I've seen 4k upscale on the Sony VPL-VW1100ES and it was very impressive though not that much better than what can be achieved on a PC with proper GL shader setups.

I personally wouldn't bother right now unless you're planning on upgrading anyway, chances are you'd gain more from a bit of room treatment and then upgrade once we start seeing some actual 4k bluray releases.
 
Need an AVR that can process native 4K as well - I'd be surprised if anyone who has a projector is using their BD for the audio - and there's none of those yet (or 4K BD players). May as well wait for the rest of the chain to be finalised and released rather than getting just a display with no guarantee of future compatibility.
 
Chris1712 said:
JVC don't have any native 4k projectors at the moment? Only Sony. I've seen eShift in action and honestly it's not really worth it, if anything it gives D-ILA a slightly more filmic look reminiscent of DLP but doesn't IMO give an improvement in sharpness/detail/any qualities typically associated with higher resolution.
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You are right, it is actually E-Shift, i didn't realise what this actually was. I would be interested to see one in real life. I might have to find a sevenoaks branch and get a demo.

The VPL-VW1100ES, it almost looks like the spiritual successor to my current 1080p projector, i currently have a VPL-VW50 (Pearl) (my setup is a good few years old, this was possibly the first true 1080p projector to market and i was a bit of a digital early adopter).

Somnambulist - i do not have a requirement for AVR, i have an entirely separate audio system. :)
 
I viewed the JVC 500R (E-shift) vs the Sony 55ES (1080p) and also the JVC X35. I did find that the e-shift did sharpen the picture up nicely during my demo of Pacific Rim although not enough to warrant the extra £2200!

Apparently the native 4K Sony's do a very good job upscaling but you will pay for it (9K for the 500ES and £19k for the 1100ES!) but as mentioned I don't think any AVReceivers are 4k native at the moment just upscaling, if you already 4k upscaling receiver it could be worth it as you can upgrade that when the time comes or if you can get a great deal on a 4k upscaling receiver and don't mind getting a new one once 4k is set.

If I had the money I would get a 4k projector. The Sony's get upgraded and will be for HDMI 2.0 and like you I can appreciate just the extra sharpness overall when stretched over a projection screen. Whereas on even a 65" set the difference is no-where near as noticeable.
 
Richeh said:
I viewed the JVC 500R (E-shift) vs the Sony 55ES (1080p) and also the JVC X35. I did find that the e-shift did sharpen the picture up nicely during my demo of Pacific Rim although not enough to warrant the extra £2200!

Apparently the native 4K Sony's do a very good job upscaling but you will pay for it (9K for the 500ES and £19k for the 1100ES!) but as mentioned I don't think any AVReceivers are 4k native at the moment just upscaling, if you already 4k upscaling receiver it could be worth it as you can upgrade that when the time comes or if you can get a great deal on a 4k upscaling receiver and don't mind getting a new one once 4k is set.

If I had the money I would get a 4k projector. The Sony's get upgraded and will be for HDMI 2.0 and like you I can appreciate just the extra sharpness overall when stretched over a projection screen. Whereas on even a 65" set the difference is no-where near as noticeable.
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Not that it makes that much difference but its possible to find the 500ES for ~£8k :)

Everything being equal pj is always the way to go, but to get the most out of them you need a perfectly dark /near dark room to make them worth it.

Most of the 65 " sets make a good upgrade on my Pioneer 5090 imo but I dont have the £5k~ required :(
 
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