"Chav" encounter

[Lydzor]

I dunno about everyone else but I wouldn't have even given them the pound, let alone the time of day. By giving them the pound you give the impression you've got more and once they'll know this they'll apply further pressure in order to get what they want.

I was a bit suprised that my friend gave a pound also, I certainly wouldn't but unfortunately I could tell he was getting quite nervous and was pacing around.

Walk on by. Don't stop. Ignore. If they follow / harrass, just keep going. They then either have to get aggresive or they get bored and leave you alone.

If they get aggressive, run if you don't feel you can anticipate what they are capable of. There's no shame in it.

As a mate of mine from school used to say: "Run away, live to run away another day"

Could be an option but then other things come to mind like:
- Can I and more importantly we run faster than these guys?
-Which way do we run?
-If I run, would the others run with me? If not then they are stuck with them

I'm pretty certain the girl would not be able to out run these guys.

why has no one mentioned the fact that the OP was on a bridge.

should have powerslammed them over the bridge imo. That would have shown em whos boss ......

Seriously though your mate got kicked in the nuts no less and you still offered them advice/money. Strength in Numbers !! you had the upper hand.

Unfortunately the bridge was a strange one. It was caged all around, enclosed really almost like a tunnel. Didn't think of that though, but still wouldn't have been an option. Could have been entertaining though!

My friend offered the pound but I can't remember if this was directly before or after he was kicked. We had 3 people versus 2 true, but one of our members was a girl plus they were drunk and possibly drugged up. Again one guy was taller, the other guy was about the same height.

You should have called police and said that somebody was nicking your bin..

Haha that may have worked!

Wouldn't it have been far simpler to say you didn't have a mobile phone.

My friend tried this at first but they still insisted.

I'm 6'3" and I'm not small.. yet I know my g/f would be able to restrain almost anybody who wanted to start a fight. She's had years of control and restraint training against violent clients, I've had years of quake3 training.

The OP has no reason to feel ashamed, and we weren't there to see how anything could have been done better.

People need to stop bashing the OP or recommending violence.

Indeed, when the aggressive guy was around her he was calm, but when he was around me and my friend he was always on the verge of kicking off. We would have been screwed without her.


Sorry to hear about other people's experiences too.

Remembered another interesting detail so added it to the original post.

 

[lixxus]

Remembered another interesting detail so added it to the original post.

you think anyone cares. maybe you should have called the police and reported an assault on your friend. these threads are getting ridicolous. seriously are people retarded that the first thing you think is to come on ocuk and post that you get abused or mugged. when the correct thing to do is contact the police. all these threads do are spawn keyboard warrior responses

u got intimidated by 2 chavs to make a phone call, when u could have all said u dont have credit or just ignored them.

by stopping for them you acknowledged them. therefore giving them an opportunity to hassle you even more, as a tramp would for money.

what gets me. u still gave them the time of day after they kicked your friend in the nuts.

 

[Viper²]

People need to stop bashing the OP or recommending violence.

Or maybe people who have been in the situation before know what to do from experience?

 

[Sayso]

ive been mugged twice at knifepoint when i was a nipper its not nice, after the first time i didn't go out in London for about a year..the second time i just laughed gave them the tenner i had on me and wished them a happy xmas (it was Christmas day and i was clubbing). my missus sister was recently mugged for her phone, well when i say mugged beaten by 3 blokes for a ****ty Nokia, ive had another friend robbed for his trainers at knifepoint, another beaten senseless for his laptop even after he just handed it over....moral of the stories is even if you give them what you want your likely to get a kicking/stabbing be streetwise and don't let yourself get put into a position where you can be mugged, i know its not always unavoidable...

 

[lixxus]

the moral of the story is chavs always win

 

[Sayso]

unless you are able to beat the **** out of them yes, a person willing to rob/hurt another with out the feeling of guilt will always win over a person of normal morality..the person with the biggest stick wins whether its politics or street violence.
when i was a nipper i used to run with people that had stabbed people, carried guns, robbed banks etc i have seen people slashed, stabbed and bottled (ive been bottled myself!!) so now im a member of society i have seen both sides of the coin, the only way you can win against someone willing to mug you is to be willing to hurt that person so badly that they don't have a opportunity to hurt you first..98% of the population isnt willing to do this so chavs/rudeboys/wanabe gangters win.

 

[DrDee]

Put the keyboard down...


It's not up to the OP to show them how to be civilised. His priority was to diffuse the situation without his mate being bottled or the chick being molested in some way. If you were in that situation and you put more interest into starting a fight than getting your mates out of there, then you're an a-hole and you don't deserve any

in my humble opinion. of course.

Of course I would not have wanted to start a fight, I don't think I said that, however getting kicked in the nads crosses a line, hell, the line was crossed long before then from how the OP describes it. I realise the OP acted in what he thought the best way was for the situation not to escalate but imo it had gone far to far from what was acceptable already.

Being short is not a reason to be a wimp either, look at Mike Tyson.

 

[Defcon5]

He kicked your mate in the balls and then your mate gave him a pound to go away? Did I read that right?

 

[Azagoth]

What sort of friend just stands around and does nothing whilst a mate gets a good kick to the nads? Not to mention the fact that they tried to assault the bird you were with. There's two of you and two of them and they're ****ing drunk, you should have sorted the ****s out there and then!

Jesus, what sort of ****ing metro-sexual pansies are we breeding these days?

No keyboard needed, just a good old dose of being a man!

 

[Sayso]

Of course I would not have wanted to start a fight, I don't think I said that, however getting kicked in the nads crosses a line, hell, the line was crossed long before then from how the OP describes it. I realise the OP acted in what he thought the best way was for the situation not to escalate but imo it had gone far to far from what was acceptable already.

Being short is not a reason to be a wimp either, look at Mike Tyson.

haha Mike Tyson was an animal he could have been 4ft tall and no one would have messed with him...its all to do with a state of mind not how tall you are.

 

[lixxus]

What sort of friend just stands around and does nothing whilst a mate gets a good kick to the nads? Not to mention the fact that they tried to assault the bird you were with. There's two of you and two of them and they're ****ing drunk, you should have sorted the ****s out there and then!

Jesus, what sort of ****ing metro-sexual pansies are we breeding these days?

what he said ^

 

[lixxus]

Of course I would not have wanted to start a fight, I don't think I said that, however getting kicked in the nads crosses a line, hell, the line was crossed long before then from how the OP describes it. I realise the OP acted in what he thought the best way was for the situation not to escalate but imo it had gone far to far from what was acceptable already.

Being short is not a reason to be a wimp either, look at Mike Tyson.

mike tyson aint short he is like 5,11, its just because he is stocky. and comparing the op to mike tyson.

are u dumb

 

[Sayso]

What sort of friend just stands around and does nothing whilst a mate gets a good kick to the nads? Not to mention the fact that they tried to assault the bird you were with. There's two of you and two of them and they're ****ing drunk, you should have sorted the ****s out there and then!

Jesus, what sort of ****ing metro-sexual pansies are we breeding these days?

No keyboard needed, just a good old dose of being a man!

until you have been i few fights and lost you don't realise that getting a kicking is no big deal might take a few weeks for the lumps to go but as long as you give as good as you get you can hold your head up high but if the Op was that way inclined he wouldn't have posted the thread in the first place..

 

[lixxus]

sounds like she was more of a man then them. i mean she must have felt so safe being around you guys.

remind me of the film adulthood, when the youth sells drugs to some notting hill yuppie scene and his girlfriend gets frisked while he watches

We would have been screwed without her.

 

[Westyfield2]

One night heading back from Craigavon, we were driving past a relatively well built up area and there were 3 dudes on the footpath at the side of the road waving and pointing at the other side of the road where there were about 7 lads apparently kicking another lad who was lying on the ground.

Now, we were driving slow enough that I got a good look at them and they were making no contact with the guy on the ground. What they were doing was hoping that a car stopped and the driver get out and they'd probably either mug them or nick the car.

I've had that one when out in town, "My mate's being beat up can you give us a hand" but the punches were just as real as WWE.


@OP: I find the "sorry no credit" or "<pats down pockets> sorry mate left it at home" usually works.

Though at the end of the day if I was properly cornered/whatever I'd just give them it... yea it's a 32GB iPhone on Contract, but it's insured and life is worth more!

 

[Azagoth]

until you have been i few fights and lost you don't realise that getting a kicking is no big deal might take a few weeks for the lumps to go but as long as you give as good as you get you can hold your head up high but if the Op was that way inclined he wouldn't have posted the thread in the first place..

I've been in more than my fair share of scraps and fights in my time, and once the first punch or kick thrown one thing you don't do is back down! OK, you may lose and you may limp away nursing a few cuts and bruises, but at least you can say you stood your ground.

 

[lixxus]

i like how the OP had a jemery kyle session with the chavs. and found out their life stories and how they are on parole and had to be home by 7pm

LMAO. i swear these threads are epic

if i kick ur mate in the balls will he give me a £1 also

 

[Raumarik]

Well handled Mr OP More patience than I would have, ashamed to admit it but the instant he hit my mate I would have saw red and I'm a very timid/shy/restrained person normally.

OPs way worked best though - kudos mate.

unless you are able to beat the **** out of them yes, a person willing to rob/hurt another with out the feeling of guilt will always win over a person of normal morality..the person with the biggest stick wins whether its politics or street violence.
when i was a nipper i used to run with people that had stabbed people, carried guns, robbed banks etc i have seen people slashed, stabbed and bottled (ive been bottled myself!!) so now im a member of society i have seen both sides of the coin, the only way you can win against someone willing to mug you is to be willing to hurt that person so badly that they don't have a opportunity to hurt you first..98% of the population isnt willing to do this so chavs/rudeboys/wanabe gangters win.

Wise words mate - some of the keyboard warriors in this thread would do well to read them.

 

[Chimerical]

I've been in more than my fair share of scraps and fights in my time, and once the first punch or kick thrown one thing you don't do is back down! OK, you may lose and you may limp away nursing a few cuts and bruises, but at least you can say you stood your ground.

Depends entirely on who you're fighting. I got beaten up on a snow day about two years by some generic 'chav(s)'; it was against someone my age/height/size and I lost but the worse that came of that was a few bruises.

Me going up against some drunken person (for example) whose much bigger than me? No chance.

At least getting owned taught me a valuable lesson to never do anything like that again. I got off lucky.

 

[Azagoth]

Wise words mate - some of the keyboard warriors in this thread would do well to read them.

What is it with this "keyboard warrior" phrase being banded around all the time? It's about time that people like you wake up and realise that not everyone on the internet is some 14 year old nerdy weakling who can't handle themselves.