Cheapest way to go C2D

Camalot · 5 Jun 2007 at 15:38

My 939 system wouldnt boot last week, I went for a new cpu which solved it after trying everything else. Now it wont boot again. I dont know what the hells up with it and tbh i cant be bothered to start spend more money on a cpu if its just going to die again for some stupid reason.

Atm i have an ASRock dual sata2
amd 3800x2
ati x1800xt 256mb
2gig ram

Could i possible just rebuild to c2d instead of trying to spend more money on my 939 system?

Could you reccomend me what to buy please? I think i need new memory and a psu and a mobo with the new cpu?

£300max maybe?

Psycho Sonny · 5 Jun 2007 at 15:43

4theres an asrock mobo that supports ddr1 and core 2 duo's, but ddr2 prices are very cheap at the moment, why dont you take a look in the members market with your budget i wouldnt buy anything brand new

steve258 · 5 Jun 2007 at 15:46

Something like this perhaps:

FSP Sparkle Blue Storm 2 500W ATX2.0 PSU
£39.99
(£46.99)

Gigabyte GA_P35C_DS3R (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 & DDR3 Motherboard
£81.99
(£96.34)

GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400C4 800MHz Ultra Low Latency DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (GX22GB6400UDC)
£61.99
(£72.84)

Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 "LGA775 Allendale" 1.80GHz (800FSB) - Retail
£66.99
(£78.71)

Sub Total : £250.96
Shipping : £8.95
VAT : £45.48
Total : £305.39

bluntslide · 5 Jun 2007 at 15:46

for just under £200 you could get an e2140 with a ds3 board and 2gb geil 6400 c5. you would have spare cash for a new psu if you really wanted. i take it the gfx is pcie already?

bluntslide · 5 Jun 2007 at 15:47

or just look above my original post! :eek:

semi-pro waster · 5 Jun 2007 at 15:49

I'd probably go with steve258's option but just to give you an alternative you could go for this and re-use your existing Ram.

Asrock 4CoreDual-VSTA (Socket 775) PCI-Express/AGP DDR2 Motherboard £39.99
(£46.99) £39.99
(£46.99)
Corsair HX 520W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Compliant PSU (CMPSU-520HXUK) £61.99
(£72.84) £61.99
(£72.84)
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 "LGA775 Conroe" 2.40GHz (1066FSB) - Retail £125.99
(£148.04) £125.99
(£148.04)
Sub Total : £227.97
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
City Link Parcel Next Day (Delivered Mon-Fri)
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £8.95
VAT is being charged at 17.5% VAT : £41.46
Total : £278.38

Camalot · 5 Jun 2007 at 15:50

Yes the grfx is pci-x and my psu is a seasonic 430w

Im really bugged as to why it wont boot atm im so ****** !

steve258 · 5 Jun 2007 at 15:53

You said you tried everything else? What have you tried?

You can probably do without a new psu as long as you don't do massive overclocks and don't have lots of drives and peripherals.

Camalot · 5 Jun 2007 at 15:54

semi-pro waster said:
I'd probably go with steve258's option but just to give you an alternative you could go for this and re-use your existing Ram.

Asrock 4CoreDual-VSTA (Socket 775) PCI-Express/AGP DDR2 Motherboard £39.99
(£46.99) £39.99
(£46.99)
Corsair HX 520W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Compliant PSU (CMPSU-520HXUK) £61.99
(£72.84) £61.99
(£72.84)
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 "LGA775 Conroe" 2.40GHz (1066FSB) - Retail £125.99
(£148.04) £125.99
(£148.04)
Sub Total : £227.97
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
City Link Parcel Next Day (Delivered Mon-Fri)
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £8.95
VAT is being charged at 17.5% VAT : £41.46
Total : £278.38

That doesnt sound bad, i like the idea of using my existing ram. Do i REALLY need a new psu tho? 430w seasonic isnt enough?

steve258 said:
You said you tried everything else? What have you tried?

You can probably do without a new psu as long as you don't do massive overclocks and don't have lots of drives and peripherals.

I doubt id overclock it straight away. I just want a working pc atm !

When this happend last week i tried a new mobo, new psu, new ram and a new graphics card.

I bought a new cpu and it worked...Now it wont boot again, WHY? All i did was plug my slave ide drive in and pressed power, wont boot, took it out, wont boot ahhhhhhh.

semi-pro waster · 5 Jun 2007 at 15:59

Camalot said:
That doesnt sound bad, i like the idea of using my existing ram. Do i REALLY need a new psu tho? 430w seasonic isnt enough?

The Seasonic should be fine but it was just in your original post you said you'd need a new PSU so I put one in.

steve258 · 5 Jun 2007 at 16:02

I know it sounds cliche but have you tried resetting CMOS & remove battery?

Does your mobo give you any beep at start up?

Camalot · 5 Jun 2007 at 16:05

steve258 said:
I know it sounds cliche but have you tried resetting CMOS & remove battery?

Yeap, just fans spin up to full blast then stays like that. It started doing it a few times but it would normally work again on the next boot.

I dont know, somethings wrong, i just dont know what

If cpus gone again what can cause that?

semi-pro waster · 5 Jun 2007 at 16:28

I don't know exactly what would cause the CPU to go because there could be a few reasons including motherboard being dodgy and supplying the wrong voltage, general bad luck in getting two dodgy CPUs, power surges etc.

Camalot · 5 Jun 2007 at 16:34

semi-pro waster said:
I don't know exactly what would cause the CPU to go because there could be a few reasons including motherboard being dodgy and supplying the wrong voltage, general bad luck in getting two dodgy CPUs, power surges etc.

Could the elextric being turned off while my pc is plugged in and turned on cause this?

Because we are having work done in the kitchen and they turned the power off while i was trying to burn a dvd.

Its after that when it started playing up. It worked first time after this tho, then just died.

semi-pro waster · 5 Jun 2007 at 16:56

It is possible that turning the electricity off could do it damage, a little unlikely to be serious but still possible I guess. It would really be difficult to know without testing and how you'd go about that is way beyond my level of knowledge.

ByteJuggler · 5 Jun 2007 at 17:00

If possible have your PSU checked, it might be going and might be killing hardware (e.g. your CPU.) Seems unlikely but it's possible, the only way to know is to have the PSU checked with a multimeter and/or have it swapped out with another.

Camalot · 5 Jun 2007 at 17:01

semi-pro waster said:
It is possible that turning the electricity off could do it damage, a little unlikely to be serious but still possible I guess. It would really be difficult to know without testing and how you'd go about that is way beyond my level of knowledge.

Same here.

Im just going to sell off what i can and put it towards a conroe system instead.

Use my laptop as a stop gap

I dont want to rebuild a new 939 system, might as well just make the step upto C2D instead of putting loads of money/effort into fixing this one

Thankyou for the help anyway.

Camalot · 5 Jun 2007 at 17:03

ByteJuggler said:
If possible have your PSU checked, it might be going and might be killing hardware (e.g. your CPU.) Seems unlikely but it's possible, the only way to know is to have the PSU checked with a multimeter and/or have it swapped out with another.

I bought a brand new one but it will wouldnt boot. But then again i was probably testing it against a cpu that was already dead so i dismissed it.

Camalot · 5 Jun 2007 at 18:07

semi-pro waster said:
I'd probably go with steve258's option but just to give you an alternative you could go for this and re-use your existing Ram.

Asrock 4CoreDual-VSTA (Socket 775) PCI-Express/AGP DDR2 Motherboard £39.99
(£46.99) £39.99
(£46.99)
Corsair HX 520W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Compliant PSU (CMPSU-520HXUK) £61.99
(£72.84) £61.99
(£72.84)
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 "LGA775 Conroe" 2.40GHz (1066FSB) - Retail £125.99
(£148.04) £125.99
(£148.04)
Sub Total : £227.97
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
City Link Parcel Next Day (Delivered Mon-Fri)
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £8.95
VAT is being charged at 17.5% VAT : £41.46
Total : £278.38

So you recon i could go conroe with keeping my psu / ram

Asrock 4CoreDual-VSTA (Socket 775) PCI-Express/AGP DDR2 Motherboard £39.99
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 "LGA775 Conroe" 2.40GHz (1066FSB)
£125.99

Sub Total : £165.98
City Link Parcel Next Day (Delivered Mon-Fri) Shipping : £8.25
VAT is being charged at 17.50% VAT : £30.49
Total : £204.72

Id only be running one sata hard drive and one dvd drive.

I can also add better ram / psu on later pay days if above would be ok!

semi-pro waster · 5 Jun 2007 at 18:10

Yep, you could go Core2Duo with those two parts, the motherboard accepts DDR Ram and PCI-E graphics cards as well as DDR2 for when you have more cash/need the upgrade. It is highly unlikely to overclock well but I'm assuming a stable system is your first priority.