Chemistry lesson problem

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Today we tryed a new practicle with the year 10's from the new GCSE scheme of work.
Only its not working as it should, and the guide for the lesson is tbh... rubbish

The lesson is looking into saturated and unsaturated fats and oils using bromine water

The bromine water strength is 1cm3 bromine in 250cm3 de-ionised water and the fats/oils being tested are olive oil, sunflower oil, margerine, butter, dripping and lard

The practicle says to test 0.5cm3 to 1cm3 of the oil/fat (warmed in a water bath to 50oC to melt it) with equal amounts of the bromine water. If the fat/oil is unsaturated the bromine will bond across the double bond and the solution will turn clear. If the bromine water is added to a saturated fat/oil the bromine can not bond as there are no double bonds and the solution will remain brownish due to the bromine water.

Now it also states that the results should be as follows:

1. olive oil - clear - unsaturated
2. sunflower oil - clear - unsaturated
3. margrine - clear - unsaturated
4. butter - clear - unsaturated
5. dripping - brown - saturated
6. lard - brown - saturated

The results we got were fine for 1 and 2... 3 and 4 however are not clear to begin with... so how do you tell?
Also 5 and 6 went clear... meaning dripping and lard and unsaturated :eek:

Anyone got any ideas why this is happening?
Is the hotwater bath effecting the fat/oil chaning its properties
Is the warm fat/oil splitting the diatomic structure of the bromine thereby making it colourless?
Do we need to add more bromine and less fat/oil?

Cheers people
 
ASH1982 said:
3 and 4 however are not clear to begin with... so how do you tell?

With respect to 3 and 4 the solution shouldn't go clear as such, it's more that the bromine water becomes discoloured due to the small amount of Bromine being consumed. So basically providing they don't go brown then that is fine.

ASH1982 said:
Anyone got any ideas why this is happening?
Is the hotwater bath effecting the fat/oil chaning its properties
Is the warm fat/oil splitting the diatomic structure of the bromine thereby making it colourless?
Do we need to add more bromine and less fat/oil?

Cheers people

I'd recommend adding a bit more of the Bromine water, the chances are there is going to be some unsaturated fats in 5 & 6. Heating it up won't chemically change the Bromine/oil, so it shouldn't be that.
 
kaiowas said:
Shouldn't a chemistry teacher know how to spell "practical"?
We used to be marked down much more harshly in chemistry than in English.

Crucibal, practicle, christal, cristle. FAIL!
 
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