Christmas travel chaos - time for robots to take over public transport

[Participant]

People are too unreliable and expensive. They want pay rises and stuff.

The only answer to our constant travel problems, mainly from a combination of human stupidity and strikes, is to let the robots in.

Fewer crashes, no unreasonable pay and condition demands, reliable timings, no unions.

I am extremely ******* fed up of these ***** trashing every single peak travel time. We should in the 21st century be able to travel without being at the whim of bloody unions and lazy idiots that didn't do well at school so are striking for more pay.

 

[Efour]

I feel like there's a cool story here.
RMT strikes?

 

[Participant]

I feel like there's a cool story here.
RMT strikes?

 

[Feek]

The only answer to our constant travel problems, mainly from a combination of human stupidity and strikes, is to let the robots in.

 

[Teknobry]

Yes as long as you're ok no one else should battle for fair pay and better terms and conditions

 

[Participant]

Yes as long as you're ok no one else should battle for fair pay and better terms and conditions

They can battle away, that's fine; I'm saying let's take it out of their hands so we don't have to care about it.

 

[loftie]

Driverless trains 'poor value' says leaked TfL study

Boris Johnson is calling for driverless trains to be a condition of future funding for TfL

www.bbc.co.uk

Fully automatic driving and door operations "represents poor value for money", the study found.
Delivering "automatic" trains - with doors controlled either by a driver or a train attendant - offers "reasonable value for money" when delivered "as part of an integrated line and train system upgrade".

So still vulnerable to strikes. Or you're paying more.

 

[Participant]

Driverless trains 'poor value' says leaked TfL study

Boris Johnson is calling for driverless trains to be a condition of future funding for TfL

www.bbc.co.uk

So still vulnerable to strikes. Or you're paying more.

For now maybe, but it's an inevitable milestone on humanity's progress map as it's one of society's biggest problems.

 

[chrismscotland]

Robots can't drive a train if the overhead powerlines are brought down by a tree that's what's cause the issues at Euston today.

Eurostar was cancelled due to an "unexpected" French strike (although has now been called off in the last few minutes)

 

[jpaul]

the driverless trains is a bit like Mr Musk's self driving aspirations -
human driver's AI net is a bit better at interpreting an unexpected event like : that's not a road tunnel between the wheels of a truck or, that is a trailer laying on it's side across the carriageway,
when we get the automated convoys on the UK motorways I'll be returning to A roads


The adjunct of the euro tunnel strike to the doctor strike is interesting -
which will have more success in a bonus/pay increase - no one hears the voice of the sick just a few excess deaths, but the travellers voices.

 

[Psycho Ned]

Robots can't drive a train if the overhead powerlines are brought down by a tree that's what's cause the issues at Euston today.

Eurostar was cancelled due to an "unexpected" French strike (although has now been called off in the last few minutes)

An 'unexpected French strike' is an oxymoron if ever I've heard one

 

[loftie]

For now maybe, but it's an inevitable milestone on humanity's progress map as it's one of society's biggest problems.

Maybe we should ask for the thread to be locked until such a time, or maybe a thread title change. Something along the lines of "Driverless Trains should come as Soon(TM) as possible"

 

[Uther]

People are too unreliable and expensive. They want pay rises and stuff.

I wonder if someone, somewhere, is saying the same about you.

 

[Mysterae_]

I can understand the sentiment and AI seems the solution on first glance but a few days minutes watching the public you'd think again.

There was an instance with Japan's bullet train where a child ran on to the train and the mother grabbed him to pull him out. However, the doors shut on her, trapping her arm. The train could have departed killing the woman but Japan Railways have a manual safety procedure called "Shisa Kanko" that saved her and has prevented many other unwanted situations.

I'd rather take the odds of a rail strike over the possibility of the system being hacked or being programmed by Microsoft.

 

[Stu999]

Robots? Got to think bigger?

 

[A2Z]

Whole point of striking is to cause disruption, otherwise what's the point.

RMT have called a week of strikes 5-12 Jan for London Underground members, hopefully will shut down a lot of the tube most days.

Power to the unions!

 

[Deleted member 77746]

letting robots in to do this work won't fully resolve the issues that's happening.

It might fix some problems though.

 

[jigger]

I feel your frustration OP, or I did. ‘Tis a long discussion, with many twists and turns, but we have two options. Nationalisation or massive Government investment. Pick one and we might have the problem solved in an administration or three.

 

[builder22]

if 'the robots' could do it then this thread wouldn't exist

'mon the humans, snow, volcanoes, and the leaves

 

[Participant]

Robots can't drive a train if the overhead powerlines are brought down by a tree that's what's cause the issues at Euston today.

Have you somehow come to the conclusion that my main complaint in this thread is poor weather? Verbal reasoning tests must have been a massive struggle for you.

I wonder if someone, somewhere, is saying the same about you.

If they're not at least asking the question then they're not doing their jobs. That's how efficiency works and what drives society to drive itself to add value, rather than go on strike.