Civic 2.2

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Anyone had any experience with the 2.2 diesel in the civic, most reviews point it to to the conclusion of a pretty solid refined engine and reliability wise standard honda reliability..?
 
Currently done 84,000 miles in four years (08), no problems except cigar lighter broke. A bit heavy on front tyres, that may be me. Lease is due to end shortly but I am buying it to run privately. Good fast cruiser 80mph at 2300rpm or thereabouts. average mpg is usually about 45 overall.
 
Sounds ideal! Is there enough power going up and down the motorways? Handling on motorways ok too :)?
 
One of the best diesel engines available on a used car. No DPF, which is probably a reliability bonus (the new civic has a DPF now).

No trouble with power. The things will do 0-60 in about 8-9 seconds.

If you keep the speed down they will do some serious fuel economy. Wayne Gerdes tested one for CleanMPG (hypermiler site) and got over 100mpg. That's not normal driving though. That's world class, Grade A lunatic fuel economy driving (using some techniques that are probably illegal / borderline legal).
 
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RQ7 said:
Sounds ideal! Is there enough power going up and down the motorways? Handling on motorways ok too :)?
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Plenty of power on the motorways, easy to drive. I can average 70mph on long motorway driving easily. Good for overtaking on lesser roads as well, quite a tool in the lower gears but drop down into fourth at 60mph and you can overtake very quickly. Power comes in fast at 2000rpm up to 4000rpm, I tend to stay below 3500rpm generally. A little uncertain on high speed twisty bits but never out of control. I found it easy to correct slides on very icy conditions last year. Possibly a lightish rear end with most weight on the front causes the tyre wear and skittish behaviour. I am generally very pleased.
 
Expect high 40's unless you're doing long motorway trips and you'll not be far off - It's a good engine / car combo the only thing I would say is it's not a particularly quiet engine in the civic due to the lack of noise dampening - if you're used to the sound of a newer diesel it'll seem noisy from outside the car, inside it's fine.

Other than this though mine is a cracker of a car overall, comes specced incredibly well in my EX trim, I find it comfortable though the reviews criticise suspension (but I like a firmer ride and came to it from coupe's and other sportier motors) and it has masses of room in the front and back for the class of car, flip up rear seat bases are great too. A remap will give a bit more shove but in all honesty the standard car is decent enough - certainly a better delivery of power than anything short of one of bmw's 6 cylinder diesels
 
The clutch issue is there - if it's had one from 2010 onwards it should be fine, if it was before that then it may well be a better aftermarket item anyway. Worth checking out - Honda were more than happy to tell me my cars service history when I was buying it so I found out it had a nearly new clutch and flywheel
 
Clutches tend to go when the ECU is remapped to 200bhp.

As noted, it's considered a fantastic diesel engine, though economy wise it's probably worse by a small margin than it's comparable competitors.
 
No problems with the engine at all, the early accords and CRV's had some issues, but these were fixed in the civic.

One of the better diesel this side of a I6 BMW lump, smooth, revvy (for a diseasal) and obviously bags of torque.

Its actually a better engine than in the new Accord/CRV/Civic, Quite a few people at work have had them as company cars, and its does excellent MPG, easily 45mpg.
 
They arent bad, the Dtec just isnt as good as the CDTI engine.

2004/2005 model Accords and Crv's had some problems with the oil pump, which leads to a knackered bottom end (needs a new crank shaft,shells and possibily conrods), the 06 onwards engine has a revised pump.
 
Sounds interesting! What was the need for Honda to change to a DTEC does it offer anything better to the end consumer like u said the CDTI aint too shabby !
 
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Sounds interesting! What was the need for Honda to change to a DTEC does it offer anything better to the end consumer like u said the CDTI aint too shabby !
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It was because the CDTi was not clean enough for the latest Euro emissions. meant an engine redesign to reduce the particulate output from the exhaust.
 
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