Class 1 reversing - new pass.

[BartTrucker]

Hi,

Just a thread about reversing the artic lorry, has anyone got any tips that would slightly help with reversing onto really tight bay / parking in-between trailers.

I have been driving the class 2 tippers for nearly 2 years now I’m only 22 years old I have decided to just go for it and pretty much complete my license, and as of recently I have passed my class 1, Since passing I have quit the tipper work and managed to get a full time job on contract with a big company around this area (over 100 units, they only have class 1 units).

I have been with the company for 3 days now, the first 2 days was just going through health and safety and all this stuff, a lot of paper work to complete.

The company is willing to help me out and they have offered me a 2 weeks training with a trainer. First couple of days mainly doing reversing and helping with the shunting and the remaining days being out with a trainer and going to the most difficult sites to get the hang of the more difficult reversing and obviously showing me how it’s done in the real world.

As of today, this morning on the 3rd day they have started my training at the yard, simply reversing onto bays and inbetween trailers, my main problem is oversteering; which then requires me to shunt atleast once or twice to get the trailer and unit straight onto the bay.

I always manage to get the trailer onto the bay however it does take me a couple of shunts like stated before,

The main problem is I feel like I oversteer and then when I try to catch the trailer I put the opposite lock on too late or too slowly so when the unit catches the trailer, the trailer is always a bit wonky and not straight like I would like it to be.

My trainer said there is nothing wrong with shunting as long as the trailer and the load get to the bay in one piece, no matter how long it takes, however I feel like everyone is watching, which makes me feel a bit nervous.

like I said has anyone got any tips?

 

[BartTrucker]

Thank you for all the replies guys,

I’m usually calm about stuff like this, I just hate it when people watch me from let’s say the office, when they clearly couldn’t do it themselves, but are willing to make fun of you for doing something wrong, it puts me off for some reason and that’s one thing I will need to control, as most would say that’s part of the job I suppose, people will judge.

like I said before getting it onto the bay ain’t a massive issue it’s just the shunting that was putting me off a bit as that gets the people looking at you a bit wonky (especially the ones that can’t drive the bloody things themselves)

Still got plenty to learn and I’m 100% sure I’ll mess up some of the reverses where I won’t be able to even get on the bay without starting from scratch lol.

I will probably come back to this thread couple months down the line and laugh at how stupid I actually sound.

Good thing is most of the drivers at-least at this company are fairly understanding, I have blocked and got in the way of several drivers while reversing as I was struggling a little bit getting into the tighter areas and all they said to me is take your time and as the old saying goes don’t be a **** take a shunt which’s makes me feel a bit better about obviously shunting the unit.

All the drivers seem to say the same thing about going out and having a look as well which I totally agree with it’s better to block someone for 5 minutes than spend 2 hours filling out accident paper work and going through all the hassle attached with it.

It seems to me that every driver had to go through this at one point and now it’s my time to experience the joys of it all lol.

While I understand the only way to learn it is through practice, practice and more practice I though there would be some tips for people like me to make that experience a bit easier.
Anyway thank you guys and I appreciate every bit of feedback under this thread.

 

[BartTrucker]

It’s a shame the actual test doesn’t prepare you in any shape or form for the real world, your kinda have to figure it out yourself.

 

[BartTrucker]

Paging @Scania

I have zero experience driving something big like that, but I'm going to say its no different to a car in that the answer is going to be: practise, practise and more practise. Its good to see you're getting support and understanding from the more experienced guys, so keep at it. You're only 3 days in, if it was that easy to master we wouldn't have the ~100,000 drivers shortage I keep seeing come up in the news.

I want my shops stocked and stuff delivered to my house, so get out there and get to it

I’ll try my best haha.

 

[BartTrucker]

Your trainer is spot on, ignore the audience (a half decent driver would offer to help instead of watching you struggle) and take as many shunts as necessary, as for over compensating, I wonder if your simply doing it a bit too quickly.

Don’t be afraid to ask other drivers to watch you and take advice if offered (although clueless advice can be often given by so called professionals..) any driver who hasn’t been in the same position is simply lying, we all started out as newbies once and have been there.

Try using nothing more than tick over engine speeds, unless your at absolute maximum weight it should still easily do it even on a slight incline.

When your at depots and services, sit and watch what other drivers do, yes I’m sure they’ll make it look easy but believe me even now I still have odd days when I can’t reverse for crap!

As crazy as this may sound, when I was doing my class 1 training back in 2004 I went out and bought myself a toy articulated truck, matchbox type, nothing fancy and I simply got the hang of manoeuvring it into spaces and giving myself an understanding of the positioning you need with the tractor and trailer for different types of reversing manoeuvres, positioning is everything in a tight space, the tighter the angle your trying to use the harder it is.

Don’t be afraid to take shunts, as many as you require, it’s not a contest to see who can get it in one shunt or not, you’ll very quickly pick it up.

Get out and look, again and again and again, much better to take a look and apparently look an idiot to those watching than hit something and actually look an idiot!

My strongest advice would be ask the boss if you can come in on a Saturday and move trailers around in the yard as much as possible, as believe me yard shunting is the best practice you can get.

There’s some excellent reversing tutorials on YouTube as well…

I was moving trailers about today, helping the shunters out, the company I work for has the brand new DAFs they got the crawler gear going in reverse so that’s handy when reversing.

I got the hang of it today to be quiet honest, must have moved 50 trailers or more today just non stop putting them on the bay and in parking spots, my mistake yesterday like I said was over steering and keeping the lock on for way too long, leaving not enough time for the cab to catch the trailer which obviously put me in an awkward position as the trailer got a bit wonky, today I kind of sorted that out, figured out a sweet spot for when to put the opposite lock on and when not to put the lock on at all which is handy.

Still need to shunt once or twice especially when I’m putting the trailer in between other trailers, but I feel like it’s going really smoothly compared to yesterday, pretty much can get the trailer into the bay/parking space in one go now, all I really require now is just the tiny adjustments just before it reaches the actual bay so really it’s just straightening the trailer which is not a massive deal; it takes no longer than a minute to sort that out and I suppose perfection will come in time.

Got a bit more reversing round the yard tomorrow once again moving trailers about, then in the afternoon going out with the trainer to do one drop in a local RDC, so looking forward to it as it will be a different scenario in another depo I’m sure.

thanks for all the tips.

 

[BartTrucker]

Sounds good, and proof that all it takes is practice.

Don’t think you have to do it in one, yes it’s good to do so, but by all means not the be all of it as such.

Just remember a golden rule, you can never get enough practice at it and you’ll never stop learning little tricks to manoeuvring.

Keep it up driver.

went absolutely brilliant today, going to shops next week so looking forward to a new challenge.

 

[BartTrucker]

And just remember, in the new tests you don't have to reverse at all!

I have seen that; gonna be a nightmare on the roads, however the gov website stated that these manoeuvres will be tested by a third party.

after nearly 2 weeks of training I have gotten a bit more confident reversing, blind siding it is a different story still find that very difficult however did manage to do it a couple of times when it was required.

what I find strange, I don’t have a problem reversing onto a bay at an angle it goes quiet easily with a shunt or two, but as soon as it comes to reversing the trailer straight back I feel like I oversteer and over do my little adjustments to get the trailer on a bay, I don’t understand why it’s happening to me like that but I suppose practice makes perfect.

tomorrow is my first day on my own after being with a trainer for nearly 2 weeks so the real test starts.