Code 12 PCI card error

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Yet another niggling problem with my build!

I updated the BIOS a few days ago (for other reasons), and this has stopped my PCI sound card from working properly. It's saying that it 'cant access enough free resources', citing a Code 12 Error.
The system is detecting another 'Unknown PCI device' along with the Sound card, which is presumably the problem, but the sound card is the only one in the system.
I cant try it in another slot, as its a mATX mobo and the first slot is covered by the graphics card.

Any ideas? Is there a BIOS setting thats been changed when I flashed it thats causing this? I've tried disabling/uninstalling the unknown device but that hasnt helped.
 
No-one got any ideas? :(
As it stands my only thought it to try flashing the BIOS back to what it was, but its a lot of bother and I like having newer versions when possible.
 
Did you rest the BIOS to defaults after flashing it?

Also is the onboard sound disabled, may now be enabled if you did reset to default and lastly try removing the devices from device manager, reboot and see what Windows tries to reinstall.
 
Thanks for the suggestions :)

The BIOS is very limited - there isnt an option to enable or disable onboard sound, networking etc. I reset it just now but it doesnt seem to change anything - it was at stock anyway I think.

I've tried disabling and uninstalling the extra 'PCI device' in device manager but it doesnt help - it just re-detects it the next time I turn the PC on.

Its just detecting one card as two all of a sudden, and I dont know why. Any other ideas?
 
Thats just weird. I've taken the card out, and its still coming up with the 'new hardware: Unknown PCI device' popup when I load windows. Any ideas what it could be? There are no PCI cards plugged in to the system, only my PCIE graphics card which has got the drivers installed already.
 
I'll keep providing more info as I find it...

I've been going through the windows 'help' thingy, and it looks like the problem is that both the sound card and the unknown PCI device have been assigned to IRQ 11. The help file says I should change the value of one of them, but it wont let me (lol) - it says I cant change the values as the device isnt working/ isnt installed properly. ( :confused: ) Of course its not installed properly, thats why it wont work! Is there a way of overriding this?
 
No more info, but I could still use a hand with this. I'm actually considering giving up and buying a prebuilt machine just to get everything working properly :(
 
I had exactly the same problem a few weeks ago with a xifi which I bought. Have a search of the thread - search by my username. I had no solution... I have been busy at work, so I've not had a chance to open the machine and sort it out. I'll try this weekend.
 
Kind of like how windows XP and vista detect me having a floppy drive without actully having one...
 
I've admitted temporary defeat - I found a USB external sound card on an auction site so have bought that. Hopefully I can plug it in and it wont conflict with the onboard, as the system's USB seems to be working properly at least.
It'll still take a couple of weeks to be delivered from the far east though, so in the meantime if anyone has any more ideas I'd appreciate it! I'll have a look at that thread mentioned above..
 
As far as I understand Windows XP is more than capable of managing IRQ sharing so I cant see why its having an issue of 2 PCI devices sharing IRQ 11 (which is default setup to be shared since win2k).

Can you confirm that the PC is setup as ACPI in windows (expand the computer setting in device manager). If it is then the PC has been setup to automatically manage IRQ/DMA settings so AFAIK you cant move IRQs without changing this HAL (which isnt easy and when it comes to IRQ reassignment its best to reinstall).

Im afraid you havent given any real specifics of your issue so its very difficult to actually help you.

What is your hardware (and what drivers are you using with it - windows/manu-specific)
What adapter cards are you using?
What BIOS and revision? Have you tried to reflash to another BIOS?

In lieu of that I can only recommend removing the Unknown PCI device from Device Manager and telling it to rescan (this is of course without the sound card installed) and/or move the sound card to see if it is reassigned an IRQ (unlikely, but thats how you got around such issues in the olden days).

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
ps3ud0 said:
Can you confirm that the PC is setup as ACPI in windows (expand the computer setting in device manager). If it is then the PC has been setup to automatically manage IRQ/DMA settings so AFAIK you cant move IRQs without changing this HAL (which isnt easy and when it comes to IRQ reassignment its best to reinstall).
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Yes, it seems to be.
ps3ud0 said:
Im afraid you havent given any real specifics of your issue so its very difficult to actually help you.
What is your hardware (and what drivers are you using with it - windows/manu-specific)
What adapter cards are you using?
What BIOS and revision? Have you tried to reflash to another BIOS?
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Hardware:
Opteron 165 CPU, at stock
Asus A8V-VM SE Motherboard - Bios 6.02. I havnt tried re-flashing, it didnt seem like it would be easy to do. Asus made a handy application that you run in windows (AsusUpdate) that flashed the BIOS for me the first time, but when I tried to un-flash it back to the old version afterwards it wouldnt let me - it says it would only let me flash to a newer version. Presumably if I did it in DOS this wouldnt be a problem, but I've never done it that way before so tbh am a little worried about making things worse.
The Motherboard drivers are all installed properly except the onboard sound, which is the reason I had to buy a sound card in the first place. (The drivers dont install properly for it - I run them, and it says it cant install unless I'm running Windows SP2. And I cant upgrade to SP2, for reasons I cant mention on the forum.)
X850XT Graphics card (PCIE) Latest (7.4) drivers installed.

ps3ud0 said:
In lieu of that I can only recommend removing the Unknown PCI device from Device Manager and telling it to rescan (this is of course without the sound card installed) and/or move the sound card to see if it is reassigned an IRQ (unlikely, but thats how you got around such issues in the olden days).
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I've tried this, but no luck.

Edit - okay, after typing that lot out I've had another go and progress seems to have been made. (A little, anyway.) I ignored the drivers on the CD and used the Add Hardware windows tool to try and install the PCI device. It was indeed the onboard sound, which - although still not working - is now at least being recognised. It's now giving me a Code 10 for that ('Unable to start') and still a Code 12 for the sound card, but I cant see why.

I'll keep fiddling and might try re-flashing the BIOS eventually. To be honest though I might just wait and see if this external card sorts it out first.

Thanks for reading, if you made it this far :)
 
Where are these codes being presented?

Also by re-flashing I meant to re-flash it with the same one, in case is an issue bourne out of a bad flash - though perhaps this is the last resort as Im quite paranoid when I do them. Doubt the DOS one would do it as its just a precaution ASUS would have applied to the app to stop you regressing the BIOS...

You could install the sound drivers if you edit the INF to not need SP2 though Im not 100% sure how you do that (well I couldnt tell you easily), but it might be there for a reason (requires a bug fix introduced by SP2).

If you know what the onboard sound is why dont you search the manus webby for a generic driver (Realtek lets say) rather than the mobos driver. Worst comes to the worst the win2k driver would work - how people installed drivers before specific XP ones came out - i.e. Soundblaster...)

Yours is a Realtek ALC660 chip - so try http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads...=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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Where are these codes being presented?
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In device manager, when I go to the device properties. In the manager itself they appear with yellow exclamation marks over them.

ps3ud0 said:
Also by re-flashing I meant to re-flash it with the same one, in case is an issue bourne out of a bad flash - though perhaps this is the last resort as Im quite paranoid when I do them. Doubt the DOS one would do it as its just a precaution ASUS would have applied to the app to stop you regressing the BIOS...
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I'd rather eliminate any other options before playing with the BIOS any more. Still, I've got some techie friends I could ask for a hand if it comes to it.

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If you know what the onboard sound is why dont you search the manus webby for a generic driver (Realtek lets say) rather than the mobos driver. Worst comes to the worst the win2k driver would work - how people installed drivers before specific XP ones came out - i.e. Soundblaster...)
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Thanks, I'll give that a go now :)
 
Yours is a Realtek ALC660 chip - so HD Audio Codec I believe, try here

If the exe or zip doesnt work directly - then go into Device Manager and point the dodgy device to pick up the driver from the expanded zip file (just need correct INF)

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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On page 2-24 of the manual it makes references to the High Definition Audio, can be set to Disabled to disable the no board sound.
 
I've had enough of this tbh!
pseud0, thanks for the hints - I've tried all the drivers on the site (well, pretty much) and they all give assorted error codes. I suspect they all mean the same thing, but most look like '0000x00000' - that sort of thing, so not especially useful.

Iamateaf, again, thanks :) I hadnt spotted that. Its now off, and the system isnt detecting anything except the audio card, but its still saying it cant find enough resources. I dont have a clue why though - its now the only thing on IRQ 11 (lol)

I'm going to wait and see if this new sound card fixes it, and if not I might just give up and get a new motherboard. I dont think there's anything wrong with this one, it's just my stupid windows install thats causing all the problems so I could probably part-ex it against a new one.

Thanks again for the help :)
 
Tried a reinstall? Might just help if its only Windows still annoying you...

Could be the case that its still unhappy regards the onboard sound but doesnt know what to do - least witrh a fresh reinstall with the onboard disabled it should work better...

At end of day if theres an IRQ conflict it will seriously hamper usage of anything on the same IRQ...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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