Colour change - wrapping

Fr0dders · 30 Jan 2010 at 19:49

Phil W said:
Whats the durability/longevity like? Does it chip or scratch easily? What about the door shuts etc, are they left in the original colour?

people use these films to protect the paintwork, except they are clear instead of coloured. But the fact they use these wraps says it all - they are chipped / scratched less easily than paint

Any good wrapper can do the sills and door shuts too

for £1100 they would have done done that.

Just like this

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=118883

and this

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=119228

ins0mn1ac · 30 Jan 2010 at 19:54

I think that Ferrari looked tons better in its original colour :/

Durzel · 30 Jan 2010 at 19:56

Phil W said:
Certainly does beg the question why you would not want a full respray at a couple of hundred quid more than a wrap!

My point was that it's not "a couple of hundred quid more" is it, at least for a respray worth considering.

Phil W · 30 Jan 2010 at 19:58

Durzel said:
My point was that it's not "a couple of hundred quid more" is it, at least for a respray worth considering.

Any answers to the questions i asked? Thanks

Housey · 30 Jan 2010 at 20:00

Fett said:
David "HERE, HERE, WOOHOO, I'M OVER HERE!" Yu is mates with Jenson Button. He's pretty shy about it though so keep it to yourselves.

It's usually less than 2 minutes into any conversation before he mentions it im told.

BigglesPiP · 30 Jan 2010 at 20:12

Rotty said:
6k extra for white ?

It's a Porsche, less is more. He could go for the poverty spec model for hire companys that only comes in white, but that costs a millionty billion pounds.

mr tommo · 30 Jan 2010 at 20:24

Got to admit my interest ended when the £1100 figure was mentioned.

If its something you really want to do then its obviously cheaper than a proper respray but I was hoping for something around the £400 mark (wishfully).

Random thought - I'd like to see a white Clio 182 with the anthracite alloys.

Scania · 30 Jan 2010 at 20:41

^^^

Just out of curiosity, re the prices for wrapping, has anybody bothered to ring up and ask AST signs who I linked to earlier in the thread?

grudas · 30 Jan 2010 at 20:42

im sure i've seen a thread on some other forum guy getting his e46 wrapped in white for 700 quid.. nowhere near 1k..

Scania · 30 Jan 2010 at 22:10

grudas said:
im sure i've seen a thread on some other forum guy getting his e46 wrapped in white for 700 quid.. nowhere near 1k..

Obviously depends a lot on the size of car I'd guess....

grudas · 30 Jan 2010 at 22:13

R420LA6X2/4MNA said:
Obviously depends a lot on the size of car I'd guess....

probably.. but the e46 has more "area" to cover than a z4.. also the type/colour of the film differs in price..

Durzel · 31 Jan 2010 at 01:07

Guess it must vary by car, I got quotes from 4 different companies in the same area and none of them were below £1k. One of them did mention that the Type-R had "quite a few fiddly bits".

Maybe they all saw me coming!

Clarkey · 31 Jan 2010 at 01:55

Durzel said:
My point was that it's not "a couple of hundred quid more" is it, at least for a respray worth considering.

Well it is, suppose it depends who you know though. The guy that painted my car was put in touch with me by my mechanic. Same guy painted his wifes FTO, full colour change to a flip-flop paint and the bill came in at less than a grand. Everything except the engine bay was done, and to a high standard.

1100 for a bit of plastic is silly.

Fr0dders · 31 Jan 2010 at 09:33

Durzel said:
Guess it must vary by car, I got quotes from 4 different companies in the same area and none of them were below £1k. One of them did mention that the Type-R had "quite a few fiddly bits".

Maybe they all saw me coming!

It does

Most of the cost is labour and by and large you'll get charged by the hour. If they have experience of doing your car, they'll know how long it takes.

its not so much about surface area, as about intricate details. Something like the spoiler on the back of an impreza would be very fiddly for example. Wreckon the Type R one would have to come off to get the underneath wrapped properly too.

Whereas the E39 has no such spoiler, hence its cheaper.

[TW]Fox · 31 Jan 2010 at 17:41

Durzel said:
My point was that it's not "a couple of hundred quid more" is it, at least for a respray worth considering.

To be fair though your wrap is not the same standard as a 'respray worth considering' - it sounds very much to me that the level of quality from a wrap is the same as you could expect from an average at best respray.

A properly decent respray would not be comparing like with like.

Kenai · 31 Jan 2010 at 19:37

[TW]Fox;15862683 said:
To be fair though your wrap is not the same standard as a 'respray worth considering' - it sounds very much to me that the level of quality from a wrap is the same as you could expect from an average at best respray.

A properly decent respray would not be comparing like with like.

I think it is a fair comparison really, as the main downside to a poor colour change spray is that everyone turns their nose up come selling time and you lose a big chunk of value. Even a good change can have people turning away.

A wrap doesn't have that downside though as it can just be peeled straight off when you want to sell it and you have the original paint in pristine condition and absolutely no loss in resale value/ease.

Skiddley · 31 Jan 2010 at 19:53

Demon said:
The way I see it
pros:
save 4-5k - Unlikely, more that you'll be able to find a car more readily. - Since White means he has to buy a newer car because White wasn't an option on older cars (as he explained), he can get an older car (and be in budget)
get the car in exactly the spec I want - It isn't? More choice of cars = more chance of getting the right spec - this is the second hand market, and as he did say, white is very rare.
wrapping protects paintwork - So does wax - and it looks better. Hasn't someone already posted that from their experience it's a good finish, and you can wax that as well..

cons:
does it look like real paint?
Mismatch colours in unwrapped areas (boot etc) Boot, door jams, possibly wing mirrors too. Have you see what they can do? did you see the GT-R that was linked to? doesn't seem an issue at all.
not oem
affect resale? Not if underlying paint damage is undisturbed, but you will lose the wrap cost. Except it doesn't damage the underlying paint, it's been around for years on many vehicles, It does seem to be a true claim.

Carrara white was available on early Caymans. He said READILY available, not UNAVAILABLE.

A good friend of mine had a Boxster wrapped, he happened to have a cayman bumper on the back with a cheap respray having been done - removing the wrap stripped the clear coat. There are pictures if necessary.

From my experience (and I may be wrong) a cheap wrap will not include wing mirrors (which on the Cayman are rather geometrically complex). I know it's possible to wrap the entire car - I just don't think it would be financially prudent relative to sourcing a rare Cararra white example - in the long run.

lordrobs · 31 Jan 2010 at 20:54

I look forward to seeing Niks mini once it is done.

I'm not sure what material was used for that purple GTR but when I saw it at the autosport show everyone was commenting about the poor finish. It had the texture of a satsuma and was quite heavily swirled.

Booner! · 3 Feb 2010 at 16:29

I just wonder whether the summer heat would be enough to cause the adhesive to give way after sitting in the sun for a good few hours?

daz · 3 Feb 2010 at 16:56

I think you'll find 07 commands a big premium because they'll still be just in warranty and I'd imagine you can top up the Porsche warranty at this stage.

An 05 will be out of warranty, and more than likely unless it has perfect Porsche service history your only option will be a third party warranty.