Complete noob needs help

[SpaceGoblin]

Hi

I need to build a new PC. I've never done it before but I like doing things myself. My old PC was too old to play fallout 4 back in 2015. I decided to get a ps4 instead of upgrading my i7 860 with GTS 240. So basically I have no reusable parts.

I need some advice whether the following will work:


My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Thermal Grizzly Aeronaut High Performance Thermal Paste - 1g (SKU: TH-023-TG) = £5.99
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming B650-Plus WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6K0-AS) = £169.99
• 1 x TeamGroup Delta RGB 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-51200C40 6400MHz Dual Channel Kit - White (SKU: MY-0AW-TG) = £119.99
• 1 x Crucial T705 1TB NVMe PCIe Gen5 M.2 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-CRU-01869) = £178.99
• 1 x Gigabyte Radeon RX 6800 Gaming OC 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-1CV-GI) = £424.99
• 1 x Aerocool Integrator Gold 1000W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-23U-AE) = £99.95
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £359.99
• 1 x Cooler Master MasterLiquid PL240 Flux White All In One CPU Cooler - 240mm (SKU: HS-08W-CM) = £109.99

Total: £1,469.88 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

I think I read somewhere that for the 78003d you need to at least have a £800 GPU otherwise its a waste. Is this true? In my mind I was hoping that I could get a decent chip and workable motherboard and then I can upgrade other things as time goes on? As long as The chip and motherboard will last 10 years that is? Is that even plausible?

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

 

[SpaceGoblin]

Oh wow, Thankyou all for replying.

I should have been more clear, it is going to be for gaming. I guess I'm hoping it will be able to play GTA 6 when it comes out. Maybe not in 4k as that's going to cost a lot. I always wanted to play Cyberpunk so I guess that is my benchmark. I will be using an LG Oled 65inch CX as my monitor. I suppose i need to aim for good quality 1080p and then upgrade the card (to 4k) in a couple of years, this is what i meant about having a chip and motherboard that would last a long time. (maybe 5 years not 10). But then again would the 7800x3d be any good in 3 years?

So in a nutshell. I wanted to buy components for PC then in 2/3 years (after saving up) just swap the GPU out for a decent 4k card and have a good PC still. But now i don't think this is a good idea. I will just use one of the bundles above I think, thanks to Craig D1.

Thank you to everyone.

 

[SpaceGoblin]

I cant believe its been nearly a year since I first asked my question. I wasn't able to purchase anything during this time as real life got in the way. But hopefully now I'm back in a position to build my long awaited PC.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £479.99
• 1 x Asus ROG STRIX X870-A GAMING WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASU-03087) = £359.99
• 1 x Super Flower LEADEX III GOLD UP 1000W 80 PLUS Gold Power Supply PCIe 5.1 ATX 3.1 (SKU: POW-SFL-04172) = £149.98
• 1 x UK Mains Plug with 13A Fuse to IEC C13 Socket Lead, 10A, 2m (SKU: ACC-OCS-01709) = £0.00

Total: £997.96 (includes delivery: £7.99)​

I've managed to save a bit more so i have a budget of about £2500. Ive opted for the 9800x3d so hopefully it will last a long time. I believe that with this chip I need a better Motherboard so I chose the x870. Regarding Graphics I think i'll get the 5080 when stock allows. this will give me a little time to save up for it and in the mean time i will just use the intergrated graphics. 1000 watt of power for the demands of everything.

There seems to be a lot of choice with motherboard though, a lot of letters after the x870 which im not sure what they mean?

With ram, i see speeds of 6000 but it looks like the board needs overclocking to achieve this. Have i got this right?

Many thanks

 

[SpaceGoblin]

When I look at the specs of motherboards they list lots of different ram speeds, but anything over 5000 (ish) has OC after? I thought this meant something had to be overclocked to reach this speed. So if i put some 6200 speed ram in, it will achieve this speed out the box?

I really don't think i will need usb 4 so I will look at a cheaper motherboard.

i know the graphics will be insufficient for most games but I'll happily survive with some old games for a little while.

The 9070xt does look like a good card for half the price.

Thank you for the reply and info.

 

[SpaceGoblin]

Nice one, thank you.

So ive just thrown this together, would it work?

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £479.99
• 1 x Super Flower LEADEX III GOLD UP 1000W 80 PLUS Gold Power Supply PCIe 5.1 ATX 3.1 (SKU: POW-SFL-04172) = £149.99
• 1 x UK Mains Plug with 13A Fuse to IEC C13 Socket Lead, 10A, 2m (SKU: ACC-OCS-01709) = £0.00
• 1 x Asus PRIME X870-P (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASU-03090) = £229.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO/XMP RGB 48GB (2X24GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRS-03748) = £169.99
• 1 x Lian Li Galahad II Trinity AIO 360mm ARGB CPU Water Cooler - White (SKU: HS-00M-LL) = £124.99
• 1 x Corsair Force MP700 PRO 2TB NVMe PCIe 5.0 M.2 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-CRS-01188) = £209.99

Total: £1,372.93 (includes delivery: £7.99)​

I think the motherboard can have a gpu plugged in with a pcie 5 and a hard drive. Is a pcie 5 hard drive worth it over a pcie 4?
With regards to cooling, what should i look for with the chip. Is what ive selected ok? i know some more air flow will be required in the case so i'll get another couple of fans as well.

obviously still neeeds a gpu so i will get one when i can.

Thanks again.

 

[SpaceGoblin]

Are you referring to lane sharing?

No, i have no idea what that is. i meant that the gpu can connect and also a hard drive can connect with pcie5. I just wanted these to both be connected via pcie 5 so the whole setup lasts longer.

Do you really need 48gb? If you're gaming or doing moderate productivity work, I'd stick with 32gb 6000 c30.

Probably not then. It is primarily for gaming. I just felt that maybe it could do with an upgrade from 32.

Many thanks

 

[SpaceGoblin]

So taking on board what everyone has kindly suggested, I will go with this:

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £479.99
• 1 x Asus PRIME X870-P (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASU-03090) = £229.99
• 1 x CORSAIR RM850x Gold ATX 3.1 PCIe 5.1 Fully Modular Power Supply (SKU: POW-CRS-02466) = £147.95
• 1 x Thermalright Assassin Spirit 120 EVO White ARGB CPU Air Cooler (SKU: COO-TLR-03262) = £22.99
• 1 x Corsair Force MP700 PRO 2TB NVMe PCIe 5.0 M.2 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-CRS-01188) = £209.99
• 1 x Kingston FURY Beast EXPO RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - White (SKU: MEM-KNG-02963) = £124.99

Total: £1,223.89 (includes delivery: £7.99)​

Hopefully there are no conflicts here. I will maybe change the colour of things as i need to try and visualise what it looks like but all i need to do is order a gpu at a later date.

 

[SpaceGoblin]

oh ok. I'll swap it out.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £479.99
• 1 x Asus PRIME X870-P (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASU-03090) = £229.99
• 1 x CORSAIR RM850x Gold ATX 3.1 PCIe 5.1 Fully Modular Power Supply (SKU: POW-CRS-02466) = £147.95
• 1 x Corsair Force MP700 PRO 2TB NVMe PCIe 5.0 M.2 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-CRS-01188) = £209.99
• 1 x Kingston FURY Beast EXPO RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - White (SKU: MEM-KNG-02963) = £124.99
• 1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 White ARGB CPU Air Cooler (SKU: COO-TLR-03282) = £49.99

Total: £1,250.89 (includes delivery: £7.99)​

 

[SpaceGoblin]

psu makes sense. I'll keep the ssd but swap the ram anyway as i'll be cheaper on graphics.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £479.99
• 1 x Asus PRIME X870-P (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASU-03090) = £229.99
• 1 x Corsair Force MP700 PRO 2TB NVMe PCIe 5.0 M.2 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-CRS-01188) = £209.99
• 1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 White ARGB CPU Air Cooler (SKU: COO-TLR-03282) = £49.99
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming 1000W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-05Z-AS) = £138.95
• 1 x Kingston FURY Beast EXPO RGB 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-KNG-03708) = £218.99

Total: £1,335.89 (includes delivery: £7.99)​

In terms of graphics. I was going to get the 5080 but im now thinking of the 9070xt after you mentioned it. I will be getting a monitor but i also want to hook it up to my 65 oled. what would be the minimum gpu i would need to achieve this?

many thanks

 

[SpaceGoblin]

So due to me changing my mind and trying to get a colour scheme in mind I didnt get around to ordering anything. In the mean time the graphics cards have restocked so ive changed everythng around again just to squeeze a 5080 in the budget.

Does this list look like it would work, I ideally need to save as much as possible. I need 64gb as I play a lot of builders. The only saving would be the MoBo i think.

Again, thanks for all input and help.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £449.99
• 1 x MSI X870 Gaming Plus WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-MSI-04359) = £235.99
• 1 x MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 UK PSU 850W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-00Y-MS) = £139.99
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming GT502 Mid-Tower Case - Black (SKU: CA-064-AS) = £154.99
• 1 x MSI GeForce RTX 5080 Ventus 3X OC 16GB GDDR7 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-MSI-04826) = £1,289.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO 64GB (2X32GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel (SKU: MEM-CRS-02841) = £199.99
• 1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 Digital Black CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-04205) = £50.00
• 1 x Crucial P310 2TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 NVMe Solid State Drive with Heatsink (SKU: STO-CRU-03052) = £125.98

Total: £2,658.91 (includes delivery: £11.98)​

 

[SpaceGoblin]

Ah ok. this was chosen when i had rgb stuff, i will change it and also save a little.

thank you

 

[SpaceGoblin]

Excellent, thank you.

 

[SpaceGoblin]

Thanks for replies.

I got a cheaper case for about 80. My Budget was 2300 but ive gone over and ordered now. I keep waiting for deals and prices to come down and im just not getting anywhere. So i decided to just go mad and suffer the wrath of the misses. Im hoping the 5080 will perform better than the 9070xt on my 65 inch telly because ive blown my monitor budget now as well. ( yes i know the saving of the 9070 would get a fairly decent monitor). Hopefully this build will last a good few years.
Thanks all.