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DNM96

DNM96

DNM96

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I made a post previous regarding this and making it again as for some reason its not letting me onto it.

Basically i have no pc experience/knowledge and looking for some help on a parts list for me to put a pc together.

I would like to be able to play any shooter / racing and open world games at high resolution with good frame rates and no problems at all for example :

Rust
Hell let loose
Battlefield
Warzone
Forza
Rdr2
Elden ring.

**I will also be using Wifi for the forseeable due to where my pc will be based ( I dont know if i need a mother board that can hold some kind of wifi card hence the reason ive starred this. **

My budget is around 1200 - 1300 GBP ( Not including peripherals), if this is even possible I dont know.

Would greatly appreciate any advice /parts lists etc and hopefully one day i may be able to help someone else on here one day.

Thanks
 
Here you go.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,278.12 (includes delivery: £13.20)​











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The 3060 will not play AAA titles at 4k very well but is perfectly good enough for 1080p/1440p. Options you have are to change the build are remove the 12600K and go with a 12400F, this saves you enough money to possible get a 3060ti or 6700xt which would give you more graphics performance. The 12400F does not have the E cores so no real need for the fancy thread allocation in Win11 so you could remove that and instal Win10 for free.

Motherboard has built in wifi so no need for an add on card or dongle.
 
MSI Pro Z690-A WIFI DDR4 - Intel Z690 DDR4 ATX Motherboard
MB-36D-MS
£210 (incl. VAT)
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Lian Li Lancool 205 Midi-Tower Case - Black Window
CA-785-LL
£65 (incl. VAT)
£55 (incl. VAT)
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Arctic Freezer i35 Intel CPU Cooler
HS-080-AR
£26 (incl. VAT)
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Microsoft Windows 11 Home 64-Bit DVD - OEM (KW9-00632)
SW-18J-MS
£120 (incl. VAT)
£108 (incl. VAT)
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The part about the built in wifi?

If you open the motherboard in a new window you will see the picture better. The mobo has antennas that you attach on the back when you build the PC and it connects to your wifi network just like a laptop.
 
No this bit mate ' The 3060 will not play AAA titles at 4k very well but is perfectly good enough for 1080p/1440p. Options you have are to change the build are remove the 12600K and go with a 12400F, this saves you enough money to possible get a 3060ti or 6700xt which would give you more graphics performance. The 12400F does not have the E cores so no real need for the fancy thread allocation in Win11 so you could remove that and instal Win10 for free'
 
Ok I will try to help but it is easiest if you answer questions, what monitor do you have and what is its resolution and refresh rate ?

1080p monitor is 1920x1080 pixels or approx 2 million pixels. A 4k monitor is 3840x2160 or approx 8 millions pixels. It takes a lot more graphics power to render 8million pixels rather than 2 millions so the higher the resolution your monitor the better graphics card you will be wanting.

With motherboards you have what are called chipsets. Each particular chipset works with a variety of CPUs. In this case the chipset is a Z690 and this works with all 12th gen Intel cpus , you can use any of the 12th gen and in your case I have mentioned the 12600 and also the 12400. Both of those chips work in a Z690 mobo and you can buy and use whichever one you want within your budget.

OS - Win11 or Win10. Both Microsoft operating systems, you can install either and they will work. With Intels 12th gen cpus they have what are called Performance and Economy cores (P or E for short). The 12600 has 6 P and 2 E cores and it needs the fancy new Win11 scheduler to get it to work to its max potential. The 12400 only has 6 P cores and will work just fine on Win10 in theory.

Have to go make dinner so I hope that made things clearer.
 
I swapped around the 12600 for a 12400 and changed the 3060 for a 3060ti. This means you have a slightly worse cpu but a better graphics card. Removed Win11 so you can download and install Win10 for free from here - https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10 - You download and run the win10 installer then put that on an 8gb usb stick.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,166.12 (includes delivery: £13.20)​










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If you are struggling to get your head around all the parts and terms then there is always the option of a prebuilt PC from OCUK.

My basket at OcUK:
  • 1 x OcUK Gaming Firefly Plus - Intel 12th Gen Core i5 Gaming PC (SKU: FS-1DY-OG) = £1,324.03
    • Case: 1 x Kolink Stronghold M Micro-ATX Case - Black Window
    • CPU: 1 x *Build* Intel Core i5 12400F up to 4.4GHz Turbo - Six Core, Twelve Thread Processor
    • Memory: 1 x Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey
    • Graphics Card: 1 x *Build Stock* Asus GeForce RTX 3060 Dual OC V2 12GB GDDR6 LHR Graphics Card
    • Solid State Drive: 1 x WD Black SN750 500GB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen3 Solid State Drive Includes Heatsink (WDS500G3XHC)
    • Solid State Drive 2: 1 x Samsung 1TB 870 EVO SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 64 Layer 3D V-NAND Solid State Drive (MZ-77E1T0B/EU)
    • Operating System: 1 x Microsoft Windows 11 Home 64-Bit DVD - OEM (KW9-00632)

Total: £1,338.13 (includes delivery: £14.10)​



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This build uses many of the same components as I recommended from above and I put in enough storage for the average user. You are paying approx £100+ for the priveledge of OCUK building it for you and of course you then have a warranty as well.
There are parts of this build I personally would not be happy with.
1- "Intel Approved CPU Cooler" - If this means it is using the stock Intel cooler then it is garbage.
2- "700W 80Plus Rated PSU" - Most likely a Kolink 80+ Bronze unit and I would not use it in one of my builds but the entire PC does have a warranty so it is your choice.


Edit - The prebuilt i linked does not have wifi unless the particular mobo they use has it and they do not say what it is. Would need to contact them and ask them to also instal wifi card or buy a usb wifi dongle.
 
MSI Pro Z690-A WIFI DDR4 - Intel Z690 DDR4 ATX Motherboard
MB-36D-MS
£210 (incl. VAT)
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Lian Li Lancool 205 Midi-Tower Case - Black Window
CA-785-LL
£65 (incl. VAT)
£55 (incl. VAT)
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Arctic Freezer i35 Intel CPU Cooler
HS-080-AR
£26 (incl. VAT)
Find out more
Intel Core i5-12400F 2.50GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail
CP-6AR-IN
£125 (incl. VAT)
£99 (incl. VAT)
FREE DELIVERY
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Am overbudget a bit, but I'd be tempted to go the AMD route, as a lot of games are gpu bound anyway. Going more budget board from what I've read/seen etc a board such as B550 MSI Mortar wifi(£130) or a B550 MSI Gaming edge(seen for £133 but £150 on OCuk) are far better than the B660 equivalent. Below uses a 5600X, which is still a good gaming cpu..you could drop to a 5600 and save £30 if so desired. Put a RTX 3070ti in there, which is more than capable of playing 1440P, though seen the 3070 on OCuk for £539 which will bring you back inline with £1300 budget
The MSI psu(power supply) is on offer, is good and comes with a 10yrs warranty, so shouldn't be any issues there.
Gave you 32gb of ram..you could drop to 16gb to save a bit, but as price is low, thought the exra might help in future
The case is well made, has plenty of airflow, and allows you to add more fans etc at a later date if so desired..can take a 240mm aio in roof if you ever go down that route also
The motherboard is a newer version of the b550 tomahawk, with same vrm's, but has wifi built in, and has extra fins on vrm heatsink so runs cooler. The board is more than capable of taking a 5900X/5950X or a 5800X3D if you ever want to put a beefier cpu in at a later date, though that's your only route as AM5 boards will replace AM4 at the end of the year
Nvme SN750 is gen 3, but it's a good one and all that's required for directstorage in games, and is on offer. Doubt you'll notice a difference with gen4 in day to day use as you wont be doing any massive data transfers from drive to drive
My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,394.03 (includes delivery: £13.20)​










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DNM96 said:
I would like to be able to play any shooter / racing and open world games at high resolution with good frame rates
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Do you need a monitor? If so, what resolution would you like it to be? If not, what resolution is it? And does the monitor need to be included in your budget?
 
DNM96 said:
Haz, this list with the slightly worse CPU but better GPU would still cope well with CPU intensive games?
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Yes it will be just fine. Less than 10% drop in fps and that is when you are using a 3090, with a mid range gpu you will be hard pressed to tell the difference.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-i5-12400-review

Lots of graphs and tests in there showing how the 12400 compares to other cpus , including the 12600.

A 12600+3060/6600xt is very similar price to 12400+3060ti/6700xt and you can argue about what is the best to go with. If gaming is your primary need then spending more on the gpu is normally the best option so go for a 3060ti or 6700xt and save money by getting the 12400F and not a 12600.

All of the gpus we are suggested are good for 1440p.
 
DNM96 said:
I havent got a monitor mate and could i run at 1440p?
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1440p is a bit of an odd resolution, neither 1080p nor 4k. The processing power required is much greater than 1080p for not much better image quality (IMHO). The only 1440p I would consider is the ultrawide, 3440x1440. The Iiyama is the cheapest high refresh IPS 3440x1440 monitor at £450. Ultrawide really does make a difference in many games, particularly driving games - I see you want to play Forza.

Don't be conned into thinking that you need to play at the highest graphical quality settings; RTX aside, there's often little discernable difference between Medium settings and the highest during play unless you freeze frames.
 
Haz123 said:
A 12600+3060/6600xt is very similar price to 12400+3060ti/6700xt and you can argue about what is the best to go with. If gaming is your primary need then spending more on the gpu is normally the best option so go for a 3060ti or 6700xt and save money by getting the 12400F and not a 12600.
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Would take the 12400F and 3060 Ti/6700 XT over the 12600 and 3060/6600 XT any day of the week, especially to play at 1440p! Though, a usage of racing and open world games makes me hesitant to be so bold.
 
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