Computer died, opinions?

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So firstly not changed any hardware etc, pc has been with its current setup at least 2 years, some parts older.

Went to start it last night and it seemed to turn on but just black screen, odd I thought.

Turned it off, back on again, worked fine.

This morning went to turn it on, same thing, black screen. Turned it off and on but this time it took several attempts to boot up.

Turned it off, and tried it this afternoon and now it won't start at all. PC seems to boot, mouse keyboard, case lights, fans all fire up.

The drives all fire up.

Sends signal to my monitor, which displays nothing, then the signal drops and the screen indicates no signal.

I don't think the PC is booting in to Windows though, as when I hit the power button the PC turns off instantly.

Any ideas?

Ps specs are roughly:

i7 2600k, MSI p67a motherboard, 16gb Mushkin RAM (4*4), Corsair hx850, evga 1070, 2td mechanical drive, Samsung SSD.

The CPU, RAM and PSU are from 2011.

The GPU is just under 2 years old but I took the extended EVGA warranty.

I'm thinking motherboard or GPU.

Edit: should mention I have reseated the GPU, wiggled most of the connections, made sure RAM was firmly in etc.
 
Besides usual minimum configuration/reseating cables&cards try new BIOS/RTC battery. (CR2032)
Dead battery can cause some crazy symptoms and it's "cheap shot" to try, if it doesn't help.
 
I could try it, the more I think, the more I believe its probably the motherboard. I had an issue with bootlooping a few years ago, plus I had to flash the board to get the GPU to work, which had a nasty side effect of nuking most of the overclocking options in the bios.

With the tech being 7 years old, it might be time, replace the mobo/CPU/ram, and if it turns out it is the GPU I could RMA it after. I seriously doubt it's anything else, the fact it spins all the drives up etc makes me doubt the PSU.

I am so far out of touch with modern CPU tech I wouldn't know where to start.
 
So booted it this morning, very first time of starting it, it booted as far as a screen saying the overclock settings had failed, press F1 etc, but that was locked, restart pc and nothing.

Replaced the BIOS battery.

Opened case up, wiggled stuff armound more, turned it on and it booted in to win, appeared to all work normally, but the time said it was yesterday. Turned it off, tried to turn it on again ...nothing.

Took everything out of the case and built the PC out of the case. Turned on, nothing.

Swapped the GPU to the second PCI-E slot and works, everytime, although windows does not recognise the GPU (think its just a generic video card).

So... now I am really confused.

EDIT: Installed the nvidia drivers back on an PC now seems to be working fine, all be it with the GPU in slot 2. I checked out my motherboard specs and that PCI-E lane is only 8x.

So I guess, either live with it and 8x PCI-E or buy a new motherboard, CPU and RAM.
 
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I had a similar issue with my Z87 motherboard, turned out to be BIOS being corrupted which eventually killed it so it wouldn't go past post.

In the end I had to replace it with a LGA1151 setup as the older Z97 or Z97 1150 boards are no longer made and are quite expensive to find new.
 
Weazle said:
I had a similar issue with my Z87 motherboard, turned out to be BIOS being corrupted which eventually killed it so it wouldn't go past post.

In the end I had to replace it with a LGA1151 setup as the older Z97 or Z97 1150 boards are no longer made and are quite expensive to find new.
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Yeah I believe this to be similar. I think this board/BIOS is slowly going. Tried playing Rocket League just now, and if anything it runs faster??? I noted about a month ago getting slightly crapper performance in Rocket League, which is odd given the specs you would think you'd get just a solid 60fps added that the game isnt particularly taxing. I put it down to software, bad game patch etc.

Now I am wondering if my primary PCI-E lane or controller somehow got corrupted and that why my performance was getting a little gimped, until it finally died. It could, all of course be completely unrelated. I have also had similar (ish) on an old ASUS board, not quite the same as this, but the onboard sound controller died, and then later the LAN controlled. I wonder if whatever my primary PCI-E bus runs on, is screwed, I know the second slot uses in part a different bus.

I did a quick google and reading some stuff, it seems to suggest that perfomance in game isnt actually affected that much going down to 8x from 16x PCI-E, one benchmark accross several games suggested it's les than 1% difference in actual FPS.

Either way, I am still pretty convinced whatever went wrong is related to the motherboard/BIOS, but whilst it is working, I will leave it alone. I have some out of the ordginary expenses last few months so could do without the expense of a new mobo/cpu/ram right now, but I think I will start looking in to it now, and maybe early 2019 look to swap it out with new tech.
 
Could be any of these issues and more.


  • Thermal paste needs replacing
  • Ram are failing
  • Graphics card failing
  • Bios issue
  • Motherboard or certain parts failing(could be the last resort in some cases)
  • Power supply is failing
  • Something isn’t connected properly
  • Hard drive issues

If you don’t have a speaker for the sound codes it can be hard to determine the fault properly, but I have been through similar situations before, hell I was having this sort of issue with my ryzen which in my case turned out to be couple bent bins I managed to fix and badly applied thermal paste, I have had the odd hard drive issue I’ve had to correct, trouble is if you not like some of us who have spares it will be difficult to solve on your own without throwing money at it.
 
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