Confused by precision boost on Ryzen 2600

[sgoaty]

Ok I've read quite a bit about precision boost and xfr2 and it sounds fantastic on the X models.

I'm a bit confused about how to get the best out of the non X models though. Just leave it to boost to 3.9 or manually overclocking?

Thanks
Scott

 

[humbug]

If you have the cooling for it overclock it, you should get 4.1 / 4.2 out of it.

 

[sgoaty]

If i overclock it will it stop the additional single core boost performance? Its 90% for gaming.
Thanks
Scott

 

[humbug]

If i overclock it will it stop the additional single core boost performance? Its 90% for gaming.
Thanks
Scott

No because it only boosts to 3.9Ghz, if you overclock it you will gain gaming performance

 

[sgoaty]

Ok so with the X model because it has a higher boost clock (4.25 Ghz) you're less likely to achieve that across all cores. With the Non X its highly possible you can get more than 3.9 Ghz across all cores so you would be better overclocking it?

 

[hominid]

The 2600 non x is a 65W CPU, the 2600x is a 95W CPU - hence the difference in boost clocks(minus the xfr).

I would say that if it is that much of an issue for you then just get the 2600x and enjoy it.. I know it's a fair bit more than the 2600 non x but you'll be kicking yourself that you didn't do it like I did when I didn't get a 2600K over a 2500k

 

[sgoaty]

Its not an issue at all i just want to understand if they are worth overclocking since some people are reporting worse gaming performance when overclocking vs letting precision boost/XFR do its thing.

Also the 2600 isn't as different to an X as the i5 is to an i7. I understand the X is better but its 25% more expensive but i doubt its 25% better

 

[humbug]

Right, The 2700X boosts single core to 4.35Ghz, most don't go higher than that on all core overclocks, maybe only 4.3Ghz so overclocking them you lose 50Mhz which for older games that are more 1 thread bound you could lose a little performance.

However on the 2600 that's not a problem as it dosn't boost higher than 3.9Ghz, so overclock it to 4.1 / 4.2 and you gain 200 or 300Mhz.

 

[Panos]

Ok so with the X model because it has a higher boost clock (4.25 Ghz) you're less likely to achieve that across all cores. With the Non X its highly possible you can get more than 3.9 Ghz across all cores so you would be better overclocking it?

With a good board all 2000 can do 4.3 at least. For 4.35-4.4 you need an X470 M7 or similar.
PBO is the easiest and most efficient method to achieve high clocks, without going down the route of all core clocking and keeping low power consumption.

Now with the 2600 all core 4.2-4.3 going to be within single digit (if at all) bellow the 2700X as same speeds at 1080p. Above that the difference will be 0.

 

[subbytna]

With a good board all 2000 can do 4.3 at least. For 4.35-4.4 you need an X470 M7 or similar.
PBO is the easiest and most efficient method to achieve high clocks, without going down the route of all core clocking and keeping low power consumption.

Now with the 2600 all core 4.2-4.3 going to be within single digit (if at all) bellow the 2700X as same speeds at 1080p. Above that the difference will be 0.

I dunno about 4.3 at least squire? 4.2 is a better option for overclock and on all cores that's not a given, but probable.

 

[sgoaty]

That makes a bit more sense. I think