Conroe out July 23rd!!!

split · 31 May 2006 at 14:57

Seen on a Swedish site...

CPU - Intel Socket 775 - Core 2 Duo - Box

Varunr Status Producent Beskrivning Pris
321203 Intel Conroe Model E6300 (1.866GHz), EM64T (Extended Memory Technology 64), 1066FSB, 2MB Cache (Socket 775) 2.113

321204 Intel Conroe Model E6400 (2.133GHz), EM64T (Extended Memory Technology 64), 1066FSB, 2MB Cache (Socket 775) 2.486

321205 Intel Conroe Model E6600 (2.400GHz), EM64T (Extended Memory Technology 64), 1066FSB, 4MB Cache (Socket 775) 3.480

321206 Intel Conroe Model E6700 (2.667GHz), EM64T (Extended Memory Technology 64), 1066FSB, 4MB Cache (Socket 775) 5.843

321254 Intel Conroe Model X6800 (2.933GHz), EM64T (Extended Memory Technology 64), 1066FSB, 4MB Cache (Socket 775) 10.568

I have no idea on VAT etc, but that converts to...

2,113 Swedish Krona = 156.564 British Pound
2,486 Swedish Krona = 184.202 British Pound
3,480 Swedish Krona = 257.853 British Pound
5,843 Swedish Krona = 432.942 British Pound
10,568 Swedish Krona = 783.044 British Pound

Converted here.

Mr Jones · 31 May 2006 at 15:52

split said:
Seen on a Swedish site...

CPU - Intel Socket 775 - Core 2 Duo - Box

321205 Intel Conroe Model E6600 (2.400GHz), EM64T (Extended Memory Technology 64), 1066FSB, 4MB Cache (Socket 775) 3.480

3,480 Swedish Krona = 257.853 British Pound

Converted here.

Sounds about right.
I'm estimating E6600 to be just under £300 (if it turns out less, YAY! for us).

fenderbass86 · 31 May 2006 at 15:58

You really think it'll cost that much?

killer_uk · 31 May 2006 at 16:03

Does Sweden have any kind of tax? That could add to the cost, and as always it might not be a straight conversion.

It does look about right though

Kesnel · 31 May 2006 at 16:06

I'd say those prices look about right, going by how non-conroe prices on this chart (http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/1023_large_conroe_pricing.jpg) have converted into GBP.

split · 31 May 2006 at 16:26

killer_uk said:
Does Sweden have any kind of tax? That could add to the cost, and as always it might not be a straight conversion.

It does look about right though

I have no idea on taxes, but some people have here

I dunno how the dollar being weak affects this.

EDIT:

OCUK wants £135.07 Including VAT at 17.5% for a Intel Pentium 4 640 "LGA775 Prescott" 3.2GHz

That swedish site...
Pentium 4 Prescott Model 640 (3.2GHz) is 1,985 Swedish Krona = 147.080 British Pound

So they want £12 more than OCUK on a something a little over £100.

On the other hand, the Pentium 4 Prescott Model 670 (3.8GHz) works out @ 5,482 Swedish Krona = 406.193 British Pound which is cheaper than the UK @ £411.19 Including VAT at 17.5%

easyrider · 31 May 2006 at 18:21

257.853

would be a ok price it would certainly pave the way for intel shipping loads of them over the am2 dual core at this price range.

ja3h · 31 May 2006 at 23:12

can't wait till the end of july!

Infinity · 31 May 2006 at 23:28

matt1 said:
I envy them, two very powerful systems. Conroe looks to be very good indeed, got to love how the CPU scene moves on in leaps and bounds - exciting.

14% faster in windows encoder is nice but not gigantic. The real world effect is always slower I guess

easyrider · 1 Jun 2006 at 00:09

Infinity said:
14% faster in windows encoder is nice but not gigantic. The real world effect is always slower I guess

agreed ,

a 2.66 conroe encodes the same wma file 9 seconds faster than a fx 60 @ 2.8ghz

look at it like this and its not that exciting

matt1 · 1 Jun 2006 at 00:12

Perhaps I'm easily excitable, but this isn't a bad thing. I enjoy new hardware and the overclocking is half the fun, what I'm trying to say is I'd like to do it all over again like I've done with a Winchester, Venice and Opteron. These Conroe chips look to be good clockers, but I agree the real term advantages are not huge but none the less apparent.

easyrider · 1 Jun 2006 at 00:20

matt1 said:
Perhaps I'm easily excitable, but this isn't a bad thing. I enjoy new hardware and the overclocking is half the fun, what I'm trying to say is I'd like to do it all over again like I've done with a Winchester, Venice and Opteron. These Conroe chips look to be good clockers, but I agree the real term advantages are not huge but none the less apparent.

agreed,

if i can get a E6600 for 260 then I will have a play and overclock it.

thats the fun

if in real terms I see marginal gains,then i will evaluate noise as a factor.
my opty 170 is pretty much silent in my akasaq 62 with all fans on 7v under full load.

if conroe means i have to turn fans up then i will have my conroe fix,get it out my system and move on to my silent FX 62 speeds.

div0 · 1 Jun 2006 at 09:17

easyrider said:
agreed ,

a 2.66 conroe encodes the same wma file 9 seconds faster than a fx 60 @ 2.8ghz

look at it like this and its not that exciting

I think you're missing the point....

FX60 - £670
Conroe E6700 (2.67GHz) - $529 / £370 - £453 (just an "educated" guess, I admit)
Conroe E6600 (2.4GHz) - $315 / £220 - £270 (just an "educated" guess, I admit)

Now bear in mind that the 6700 Conroe at STOCK outperformed an OVERCLOCKED FX60 (@2.8GHz). And you can pick up the E6700 for around 2/3 of the price of the FX60.

Now if you're overclocking the FX60, then I think it's fair to consider overclocking the E6600 - which I think it's safe to say will get passed the E6700 speeds.

So now for say £300 max (and a tiny overclock on the E6600) you can not only have speeds that are as good as an overclocked FX60. But you can actually be quicker!!

When was the last time we were in a position where we could (potentially) see a £220 - £300 processor competing with and BEATING an OVERCLOCKED TOP OF THE RANGE £600+ processor?!?!

I think that's why people are excited about something that "encodes the same wma file 9 seconds faster". It is faster AND (a lot) cheaper!!

Now I admit that NEW technologies SHOULD beat OLD technolgies (like the FX60). But seriously when was the last time we were in a position where you could see THIS level of increase, from a processor that is expected to cost SO much less?!?!?

Anyway, thats why I see there being so much hype around Conroe - I'm not saying we should nessesarily believe it all - but I'm just trying to point out why people DO see it as exciting. At the end of the day, it MAY (or may not) live up to the hype, but we just have to wait and see!!!

easyrider · 1 Jun 2006 at 11:45

div0 said:
I think you're missing the point....

Now if you're overclocking the FX60, then I think it's fair to consider overclocking the E6600 - which I think it's safe to say will get passed the E6700 speeds.

So now for say £300 max (and a tiny overclock on the E6600) you can not only have speeds that are as good as an overclocked FX60. But you can actually be quicker!!

My dual core opty was 299 quid and it runs at FX 62 speeds on low vcore and silent cooling.

Everyone always says how much the FX 60 is when comparing conroe and the truth is the optys can easily do those speeds for the 300 quid outlay.

When was the last time we were in a position where we could (potentially) see a £220 - £300 processor competing with and BEATING an OVERCLOCKED TOP OF THE RANGE £600+ processor?!?!

erm, When the dual core optys came out.Mine was 299 quid on release.

I think that's why people are excited about something that "encodes the same wma file 9 seconds faster". It is faster AND (a lot) cheaper!!

But in real terms 9 seconds for new tech is not that outstanding IMO.

div0 · 1 Jun 2006 at 11:52

but you HAD to overclock to achieve that!! With Conroe you DONT (apparently)

I'm not trying to say that your Opty isn't a good buy.....

But I'm saying that for the first time in a long time, we MAY be able to get a STOCK cpu at a REASONABLE price AND compete with and BEAT the previous best cpu's....

/added - even if you ignore the fact that you would have to clock the 6600 to match the 6700, the 6700 is still a pretty reasonable price....

my guess is that for around £250 the 6600's at STOCK will be somewhere close to the FX60. And as we know, the 6700's already beat that at stock - that is the point I was trying to make.....

Pr0t0c0L · 1 Jun 2006 at 12:23

lol easyrider, this processor doesnt give you just 9 seconds it gives you

extra fps, quicker encoding, faster at everything ;0

cheaper, cooler, faster = conroe

fx62 will look like a celeron D in comparison

Goody_GTI · 1 Jun 2006 at 12:30

Pr0t0c0L said:
lol easyrider, this processor doesnt give you just 9 seconds it gives you

extra fps, quicker encoding, faster at everything ;0

cheaper, cooler, faster = conroe

fx62 will look like a celeron D in comparison

dont forget the fast superpi times

killer_uk · 1 Jun 2006 at 12:33

First Look at Core 2 Extreme

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1970201,00.asp

easyrider · 1 Jun 2006 at 12:50

Pr0t0c0L said:
lol easyrider, this processor doesnt give you just 9 seconds it gives you

extra fps, quicker encoding, faster at everything ;0

cheaper, cooler, faster = conroe

fx62 will look like a celeron D in comparison

I'm not disputing ther fact that its faster lol.
I'm saying that its not that much faster.

Look at the video of the two in this thread encoding a media file.
The difference is not that staggering thats my point.

and you saying

"fx62 will look like a celeron D in comparison" is just laughable lol

Mr Mister · 1 Jun 2006 at 12:57

I'll probably go for the 6600, not a bad price and if they clock to 3ghz on air it would be nice.