Considering the RCZ or DS4

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I am struggling to find owner reviews for the ds4, it can't be that unpopular can it? I at first was interested in the 200bhp editions of the rcz and ds4 but then realized they probably wouldn't be cheap to run, lets just say power got the better of me. So now I'm looking at the 155bhp ds4 and 163 bhp rcz 2.0 diesels. I'm leaning towards the ds4 simply because I like the looks. I've been looking at tune ups and came across this http://www.chipmydiesel.com/products/diesel-chip-tuning/citroen/ds4-hdi/1909.html seems pretty good if I can bump the 2 litre diesel to just over 200bhp for a mere £250. Does it actually work? Would the car perform in similar aspects to the 200hp 1.6 petrol version? Would the top speed increase too? I live in London if that helps and well would like to hear opinions on these cars. Might as well say it, I don't like golfs, 1 series or the a3 incase anyone might think about suggesting them.

Thanks in advance
 
I am struggling to find owner reviews for the ds4, it can't be that unpopular can it? I at first was interested in the 200bhp editions of the rcz and ds4 but then realized they probably wouldn't be cheap to run, lets just say power got the better of me. So now I'm looking at the 155bhp ds4 and 163 bhp rcz 2.0 diesels. I'm leaning towards the ds4 simply because I like the looks. I've been looking at tune ups and came across this http://www.chipmydiesel.com/products/diesel-chip-tuning/citroen/ds4-hdi/1909.html seems pretty good if I can bump the 2 litre diesel to just over 200bhp for a mere £250. Does it actually work? Would the car perform in similar aspects to the 200hp 1.6 petrol version? Would the top speed increase too? I live in London if that helps and well would like to hear opinions on these cars. Might as well say it, I don't like golfs, 1 series or the a3 incase anyone might think about suggesting them.

Thanks in advance

Generic map won't be the best, possible warranty issues there too...

Not sure by what you mean about the performing in similar aspects, the engine will make the car move, but the turbo diesel and petrols will have different characteristics...

The top speed would possibly increase, not that it would matter as you are never going to get there.
 
Okay, that's interesting, realistically what should I expect from a 1.6 petrol 200bhp and a 2.0d 160bhp in terms of mpg? Manufacturer states 45 for the petrol and 55 for the diesel.

Thanks
 
Okay, that's interesting, realistically what should I expect from a 1.6 petrol 200bhp and a 2.0d 160bhp in terms of mpg? Manufacturer states 45 for the petrol and 55 for the diesel.

Thanks

I might be wrong but is the 1.6 petrol the same engine that's in the mini cooper s, bar it's state of tune ?

Driven sensibly, you should get fair figures, probably a realistic day to day average of high 30's/low 40's for your combined, and if you stick to 70 on the motorway mid to high 40's over a distance.

Mpg varies hugely on driving style, traffic and road conditions and also fuel. I've found considerable difference even between different types of super unleaded in my fabia vrs.
 
I drove an RCZ a few months back, here is a post about what i thought of it.

As the per the title I test drove a peugeot RCZ today, the 1.6L 156BHP version. Now on paper the RCZ is a good prospect, good price, reasonable performance, coupe styling, practicality and exclusivity. However the fact it was a Peugeot could never really be forgotten.

Now personally I think the RCZ looks great but the 308 style front looks slightly wrong but the car itself does attract a lot of attention be it good or bad, well who knows.

The car I drove was a GT spec with all the trimmings, so electric seats, heated seats, full leather, cruise control, bluetooth, xenons etc. So fairly well kitted out. The first thing the sales rep showed me was the boot space, which was rather epic, around 300 litres or so but vary surprising for this type of car, a 2+2 coupe is never usually this practical but saying that the rear seats were there for just comedy value, more useful for placing shopping than people I would imagine.

Now whilst the car sits very low, you never really feel low, even with the seat adjusted to its lowest point. The interior controls feel well made and good enough even to rival German quality. The clutch however lacks a lot of feel, the travel and weight is ridiculous, even longer than that of my Polo (which is a supermini by class). The RCZ clutch is so light and spongy you never really know where abouts you are with it which contrast greatly with all the other "sports cars" I had driven before. Now to the gear changes, well they are silly, silly because you can get up to 70MPH in 2nd and there is no need ever to change gear. Which in my book, kinda defeats the point of a sports coupe somewhat and then the engine noise, its crap. Even though Peugeot has used a similar thing to mazda "aural induction system" to direct engine noise into the cabin, it still sounds crude. It never sounds or feels urgent and sloppy would be the best word to describe it.

The speed of the car is ok, not bad but for a 1400KG coupe 156BHP was alittle lacking, they do offer a 200BHP version but my local dealer didn't have one at the time. It goes well enough but you never really feel it. On paper it is as quick as the 2.0L MX5 Sport Tech but feels about 40% slower all the time and there is never any turbo sound either.

The steering is good, being a hydraulic system it communicates well but doesn't respond quickly enough and gliding over bumps is not enjoyable thanks to the massive 19" wheels and firm suspension.

The brakes whilst large don't provide much feedback as the brake pedal felt spongy and loose.

Overall I came away from the RCZ disappointed as a lot of reviews deem the car "a return to form" for Peugeot, whilst yes it is more exciting than a 407 diesel it is trounced by nearly every competitor and isn't even much cheaper. nothing about the car felt tight or sporty, it just felt loose and very much style over substance.
 
I had a drive of a DS4 a little while back. Have to say that I was very attracted by the styling, I think it looks ace. Unfortunately it's all show and no go (and I don't mean in just a straightline). Drove like just another dull as ditchwater hatchback, i.e. very mundanely. I can't recommend anything alternative, as you've already decided against some of ht emore fun options out there. If it were me looking at that, I'd go for either a Mini or a Civic, depending upon your space requirements. IMO, both cars were far superior to the DS4.
 
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