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ray liotta

ray liotta

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But i REALLY want a rig now, i want a rig with Core I7 before they all go. So if i was to get all the high end specs, but get a basic GPU for now till new ones out, then im sorted and will only need to upgrade to the card i want next month. So thinking of the below spec for now.

Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz
6GB DDR 1600MHZ memory
1TB Hard Drive
Asus P6T (Intel X58 chipset, SLI/Crossfire)
Windows Vista 64(with Free upgrade to Windows 7)
Antec 900 Case

Thinking of getting a basic ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB GDDR3. Then when new cards come out next month, just upgrade.

The Motherboard will be ok for new cards won't it? and probably work out cheaper buying the rest now, than getting it all together which the costs will be a lot more with a new card in it.

Would it be a simple thing as just removing the old card and putting the new one in and switching it on, then downloading the drivers? Never fitted anything in a computer for, just hoping it would be that simple.
 
ray liotta said:
Thinking of getting a basic ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB GDDR3. Then when new cards come out next month, just upgrade.

The Motherboard will be ok for new cards won't it? and probably work out cheaper buying the rest now, than getting it all together which the costs will be a lot more with a new card in it.

Would it be a simple thing as just removing the old card and putting the new one in and switching it on, then downloading the drivers? Never fitted anything in a computer for, just hoping it would be that simple.
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for a bit extra i'd go with a 4870, even if it is a temp measure, as "next" month tends to vary, and i tend not to believe it til i see them in the shops.

mobo should be fine not aware of any major changes with the new cards.

depends on which card you get, if u go from the ati 4850 to next ati model you should be fine,UNLESS they issue specific drivers for the new model, in which case you'd be better off d/l the new drivers, un-install your current ones with the 4850 still in place, power off, replace card, power on then install new drivers when it asked.
 
D0 i7 chip

Considered the P6T se? Appears to be the same but without sli, and a fair bit cheaper

I wouldnt buy vista, use the windows 7 rc until forced to buy a licence

Im not sure about dd3 speeds, be curious if other people can comment. I'd like to know what is needed to hit 4ghz without overclocking the ram, fsb*2 doesnt seem to work now fsb is gone :)
 
All i want guys is the top end system that is future proof with a crap GPU in right now. That will be ok in next month or two to then plonk the the new ATI card in(when it's released).
 
depending on what resolution you will be using would definetly go for a 1gb 4870 atm even if only a stop gap... you should be able to recoup most of the differnce when you sell it anyhow and a 512mb 4850 could really hold back an I7 system at higher resolutions
 
ray liotta said:
All i want guys is the top end system that is future proof with a crap GPU in right now.
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Can't be done. Dont buy to 'future proof', buy the best performance per pound now.

If you don't want sli, the p6t se is very worth looking at. the D0 i7 is better than the other stepping.
 
ray liotta said:
Thinking of getting a basic ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB GDDR3. Then when new cards come out next month, just upgrade.
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Not sure what's coming out next month, the first DX11 cards are expected by October at the earliest. If you wait till then you will be severly graphics bottlenecked for a significant time. If I were you get one of these, you can always sell it when the new cards come out.
 
Forgive my skeptecism, but the only proof of the DX11 ATI cards being brought forward to july is on "windows7news.com", which is currently down. The rest of that thread is just rampant speculation.

I'd only change my upgrade plans if somewhere like fudzilla reported it.
 
cmndr_andi said:
Forgive my skeptecism, but the only proof of the DX11 ATI cards being brought forward to july is on "windows7news.com", which is currently down. The rest of that thread is just rampant speculation.

I'd only change my upgrade plans if somewhere like fudzilla reported it.
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There you go;) reported only last week!

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/14351/1/


We've learned that ATI's upcoming mainstream DirectX 11 part, something that we call RV870, should be ready for the Windows 7 launch.

ATI might even launch its card earlier, but if they align the launch with Windows 7, ATI should be launching its DirectX 11 performance card in the second half of October.

This is at least timeframe that ATI plans for its hardware launch and we are quite sure that ATI should launch DirectX 11 before Nvidia. At the same time, we’ve heard that “RV870” is not really a brand new architecture, and that you should expect more shaders, DirectX 11 support but all based on RV770 concepts.

Naturally, the new ATI chip is 40nm which enables higher clocks and more transistors and shaders but so far we don’t have any numbers we can quote.
 
Hmmm....

ATI should be launching its DirectX 11 performance card in the second half of October.
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Sounds pretty similar to:

cmndr_andi said:
Not sure what's coming out next month, the first DX11 cards are expected by October at the earliest. If you wait till then you will be severly graphics bottlenecked for a significant time. If I were you get one of these, you can always sell it when the new cards come out.
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[offtopic]Are you cycling to Strasbourg then? That's fantastic. If the heat continues you're going to die. Were I not so desperately seeking employment Id ask to come along, Bristol's rather close and I like cycling lots.

700 miles in 11 days will be uncomfortable, I wish you luck and flat roads[/offtopic]

Rumours that intel will shortly stop selling 920's to make room for i5, therefore making the 1366 socket a very expensive one. Personally I'll wait until rumours are confirmed before I nervously buy a 920 just in case.
 
JonJ678 said:
[offtopic]Are you cycling to Strasbourg then? That's fantastic. If the heat continues you're going to die. Were I not so desperately seeking employment Id ask to come along, Bristol's rather close and I like cycling lots.

700 miles in 11 days will be uncomfortable, I wish you luck and flat roads[/offtopic]

Rumours that intel will shortly stop selling 920's to make room for i5, therefore making the 1366 socket a very expensive one. Personally I'll wait until rumours are confirmed before I nervously buy a 920 just in case.
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Indeed, it's hot enough here, in Europe it'll be nightmarish. I hate the heat, and the sun (being of a ginger persuasion means that I burn very easily)

it's probably going to end up more than 700 miles, Google Earth tends to underestimate, but we should be able to do it, we're fit young lads.

i5 is going to be a different socket to i7? That's a bit odd isn't it? i5 are just dual core i7s are they not? That'd be like having different sockets for C2D and C2Q.
 
I believe i5 will have both dual and quad cores in the lineup. They also only have dual channel memory compared to triple channel on i7 and they don't use QPI, but something else.

Expect them to be clocked high compared to i7, and with a significant boost from the auto overclocking turbo mode.

So far it doesn't look like it will match i7 performance (especially these 4Ghz 920 D0s), but it is expected to come in a bit cheaper (as you would expect) and who knows how well they will overclock.
 
i7 altogether a little bit of a flop compared to the success of core2.
was it always intended to be this short lived?
 
Short lived? they will be runing the i7 and i5 chip set side by side. The i7's will eventually be like 6 core CPU with HT where as the i5 won't
 
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