Cooling for x6800

I know, I know, but I might overclock it in the future, and I don't want to upgrade anything for the next few years. This way, i can overclock it at a later date if I want to.

yea, an extra few pounds for a cooler is not an issue, but only if I actually need it. I'd be happier sticking with stock unless it benefits me in terms of cooling and noise to go for something else.

Seems like stock is fine, so i'l probably stick with that. I can always replace it later if i'm unhappy with it, and as it is the ninja add to order button is broken :p

know im repeating myself a lot, but its a first build, so im pretty nervous :p

hopefully, all will go fine!
 
Why bother spending a shed load of money on a CPU that will be out of date in less than 2 years?

Think about it, the 400-500 quid you save can go on a faster processor in the future.

My AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ cost me around 250 quid. Then just 4 months later Conroe was released and a 250 quid Conroe craps all over my 4400+.

So you see, unless you intend to overclock right away, there is no point because it wont be long before another architecture comes along and makes your 700 quid processor look like a blender.

SiriusB
 
SiriusB said:
Why bother spending a shed load of money on a CPU that will be out of date in less than 2 years?

Think about it, the 400-500 quid you save can go on a faster processor in the future.

My AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ cost me around 250 quid. Then just 4 months later Conroe was released and a 250 quid Conroe craps all over my 4400+.

So you see, unless you intend to overclock right away, there is no point because it wont be long before another architecture comes along and makes your 700 quid processor look like a blender.
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Sudden,

SirusB is telling you some important things. If its your first build and you dont want to mess with overclocking then buy a E6800. But if you ain't a n00b what you doing is unwise and costly for no reason.
 
Cheekykid said:
Sudden,

SirusB is telling you some important things. If its your first build and you dont want to mess with overclocking then buy a E6800. But if you ain't a n00b what you doing is unwise and costly for no reason.
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He has a point sudden, if you know much then you should oc it or leave it, if you're noob you shouldnt buy cpu's that expensive at all.
With good cooling its almost impsosible to damage the cpu with just a mhz overclock without raising voltage (wich the conroes are good in anyhow), also why not wait for *** quad cores, bit of a waste i think if you want it to last for 4 years to buy the most expensive dual if quads will be out b4 2007...
 
It is my first build actually :p Never done this before. One of the main reasons im pretty nervous about it and really do not want to mess with overclocking at the moment. Nervous enough about the build as it is.

Yes, it won't be the best after 2 years, but that doesn't mean that it won't be able to play games at a reasonable spec. I don't want to change for another 4-5 years at least and only at a time I HAVE to change because i can no longer even run the games that I want to play. i can always overclock it later, and it's good to have the potential to do it if I decide to take the risk later on.

I know you'r trying to help me, but I do want this processor, and short of lack of availability, or something even better coming out, I don't want to change.
I really do appreciate the help though :) Much better than shop keepers just trying to sell you the most expensive thing going :p Shop I went to today tried convincing me that I need a 1100 W PSU and the 900 W tagan is insuffiecient for Quad SLI.


Don't want to wait for them because I want this now, and it's not like games will stop using dual core just because quad is out. Not to mention release dates are a nightmare and there is no guarantee it won't be delayed. The waiting game is endless because something better is always coming out.

I'l be perfectly happy with this, and I don't think i'm going to regret not waiting for the quad core.
 
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Sudden said:
It is my first build actually :p Never done this before. One of the main reasons im pretty nervous about it and really do not want to mess with overclocking at the moment. Nervous enough about the build as it is.

Yes, it won't be the best after 2 years, but that doesn't mean that it won't be able to play games at a reasonable spec. I don't want to change for another 4-5 years at least and only at a time I HAVE to change because i can no longer even run the games that I want to play. i can always overclock it later, and it's good to have the potential to do it if I decide to take the risk later on.

I know you'r trying to help me, but I do want this processor, and short of lack of availability, or something even better coming out, I don't want to change.
I really do appreciate the help though :) Much better than shop keepers just trying to sell you the most expensive thing going :p Shop I went to today tried convincing me that I need a 1100 W PSU and the 900 W tagan is insuffiecient for Quad SLI.


Don't want to wait for them because I want this now, and it's not like games will stop using dual core just because quad is out. Not to mention release dates are a nightmare and there is no guarantee it won't be delayed. The waiting game is endless because something better is always coming out.

I'l be perfectly happy with this, and I don't think i'm going to regret not waiting for the quad core.
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If you really want it to last I wouldn't even bother upgrading until DX10 is out! I dont see why your so insistent on not upgrading you could save your self "a bunch of fivers" (thanks shielas wheels) and a huge bunch at that. Wouldn't you rather spend an extra £550 on, I dunno, a new monitor?

Because things change so fast it really isnt worth spending loads of £££ in one big go because it really doesnt work, you end up losing money because you wont be able to sell your system for a dime in 4-5 years. I'd personally rather be able to play all my games at a reasonable level everyyear by the simple, buy a system, sell it, use the money from the "old technology" and put it towards a better system.

If you spend say £300 more every year than you have sold your current system then in 5 years, you will have only spent a total of £1500 on a PC which isn't damn bad considering how much PC parts cost!
 
Games these days rely far more on the graphics card than on the CPU, so saying you need a 700 quid CPU to keep up with games sounds a tad misinformed.

Buy yourself a nice E6600 and overclock it some. Assuming your graphics card is up to the task you will have NO problems with any games out at the moment. Hell, my system can run FEAR with all the candy absolutely fine. Same with Oblivion and my 4400+ isn't a patch on an E6600. The reason I can play these games well is my overclocked X1900XT!

Save yourself 500 quid and put it towards a better graphics setup, better RAM, a cool set of Logitech Z-5550s speakers or even a gorgeous Dell Ultrasharp 2007WFP 20" TFT monitor!

Even if you have to uprgrade your CPU in 2 years time I bet you that 500 quid you save will be more than enough to buy the new CPU AND compatible mobo if need be with plenty of change to spare.

To be honest I rather think you're insisting on the X6800 for willy-waving purposes or a complete fear of upgrading. Not trying to be rude but it is just the way I see it as your arguments don't hold up at all.

SiriusB
 
Yeah i agree, i usally put in an avrg of 200€ each year for upgardes and selling my old stuff and i can play any game on high, i'd buy somethign cheaper, when u need more power oc it, and after oc isnt enough upgrade, if i were you I would drop the idea of the 6800 and buy 6600 ( 6700 is ok tho, but not worth it i think to spend so much more when after ocing itll be a tiny difference), also quad sli, bit pointless , normall sli is someitmes just good for just 20% boost better to wait for the gf8 series with ddr-4 and dx10 and use normall sli, im pretty sure when the 8xxx series will come out 2 of those top cards will beat 2 gx-2's, just nto worth spending a lot now on top stuff when you can save up bout half the money by upgarding when you need it...
also , a 6600 with (if i cant change your mind about quad sli) will definatly be able to handle everythign thrown at it, even the latest games on highest psosible settings. I'd just go for that and in half a year sell cpu and upgrade to quad-core cpu or whenever your pc wont handle some game maxed...
 
I currently have the money to buy the best of everything (parents have given me a 3000 budget) so i'm getting the best graphic set-up possible, i'm getting the best ram (still trying to figure that out and deciding between G. Skill and corsair :p can't find any reports of whats compatible with the motherboard) , and while they are not spending for the monitor, I have enough saved up to buy a nice 24" monitor.

Upgrading regularly is not something I want to do, and am buying this with the aim of using it for 5 years, and if needed, getting a new rig at that point of time.

I can use the x6800 right now and if I do want to overclock it and fool around with it later, I can. Plus, i don't want to get into the whole thing of selling a part and getting something else. I realize that most people here do do that, and what I want to do is considered idiotic (as is evident :p) but that is what I would like to do. It's not like this processor will not be able to run games after some time. While the 6600 can be overclocked to greater speeds, I don't want to overclock at all at the moment, maybe later, but not right now. Also, the 6800 would be able to overclock even more than the 6600, wouldn't it?

I have no intention of selling this computer at a later time, and I realize that most of you disagree with what i'm doing. I appreciate the fact that you're all trying to help me, but this is not something I want to change.
 
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