Could do with some help please.....??

Deffers · 25 May 2014 at 21:47

Hi everyone

I am a little new to PC gaming, we recently anyway. Years ago I had a 2.8 pentium 4 based system and this June I will be the grand old age of 50!! So, I was wondering if you would have a gander at the system I intend to have built and give me some feedback. I'm currently using an Eizo Foris monitor but intend to upgrade to 1440p this year at some point.

Would anyone be able to advise if Overclockers would be able to put this together for me as I would not have a clue where to start?? And if so, what would they charge ish??

Many thanks, Steve

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780Ti WindForce 3x OC 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (GV-N78TOC-3GD) Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780Ti WindForce 3x OC 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (GV-N78TOC-3GD) £399.99
(£479.99) £799.98
(£959.98)
Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £199.99
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SuperFlower Leadex Platinum 1000W Fully Modular "80 Plus Platinum" Power Supply - White SuperFlower Leadex Platinum 1000W Fully Modular "80 Plus Platinum" Power Supply - White £134.99
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TeamGroup Xtreem LV "Frost Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit TeamGroup Xtreem LV "Frost Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit £108.29
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Asus Sabertooth Z97 Mark 2 Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard Asus Sabertooth Z97 Mark 2 Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £107.49
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OcUK Tech Labs - Corsair Carbide 500R Midi-Tower Case - White - Noise Dampened OcUK Tech Labs - Corsair Carbide 500R Midi-Tower Case - White - Noise Dampened £101.66
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Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (WD20EZRX) HDD Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (WD20EZRX) HDD £58.29
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OcUK Value Blu-ray / DVDRW combi SATA - OEM OcUK Value Blu-ray / DVDRW combi SATA - OEM £33.29
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Deffers · 25 May 2014 at 22:06

Doomedspeed said:
Welcome,

You can ask in CS or give them a call, im sure they can sort you out a quote. Even though some of them parts are out of stock.

If you don't need them specific parts you can always use the online configurator.

Is this you're fully finished list, do you want any advice on amendments?

Going to be honest, its pretty much bang on. Personally i wouldn't go for a sound dampened case with 2 780ti's in it. It'll damage your airflow and raise the temps.

I'd look a just a standard case, may be like the 450D or 540 Air.

Is this just a pure gaming rig?

Thank your for the very fast reply.... I have tried to use the configurator but I was going for a white theme, so the memory, case and psu needed to match. The only reason for the sound proofing is my Mrs will kick right off if it's noisy, we have a Dell XPS 420 at the moment and it sounds like my car ticking over!!

I would be very gratefull for any advise, amendments, as I said I'm very new to all of this and would like to make sure my final system is the best it can be. I had considered a couple of inno3d ichill dhs 780ti's, read a couple of reviews and they seem to be very nice. Not sure if 2 would fit on my motherboard though?

The pc will be used for gaming, for the most part but also for photo editing and a movie edit or two. The only reason I went for the i7 and not the i5.

Thanks again

Deffers · 25 May 2014 at 22:18

Doomedspeed said:
Welcome,

You can ask in CS or give them a call, im sure they can sort you out a quote. Even though some of them parts are out of stock.

If you don't need them specific parts you can always use the online configurator.

Is this you're fully finished list, do you want any advice on amendments?

Going to be honest, its pretty much bang on. Personally i wouldn't go for a sound dampened case with 2 780ti's in it. It'll damage your airflow and raise the temps.

I'd look a just a standard case, may be like the 450D or 540 Air.

Is this just a pure gaming rig?

EDIT:

this is my idea of a beautiful gaming rig.

YOUR BASKET
2 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780Ti WindForce 3x OC 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (GV-N78TOC-3GD) £479.99 (£959.98)
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £239.99
1 x EVGA SuperNova G2 1000W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £131.99
1 x Kingston HyperX 16GB (2x8GB) PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Red (HX24C11BRK2/16-OC) £119.99
1 x Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 3 Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £104.99
1 x NZXT H440 Mid Tower Case - Black £94.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060009-WW) £88
1 x Samsung 120GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE120BW) £67.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £59.99
2 x Corsair AF120 Performance Series Low Noise High Airflow - Dual Pack (CO-9050004-WW) £22 (£44.00)
1 x Corsair SP120 Performance Series High Pressure - Dual Pack (CO-9050008-WW) £22
Total : £1,951.58 (includes shipping : £14.75).

That does look good, the case is great, they do a white one so that would keep the Mrs happy. What do you think about the 2x inno3d 780ti's?

Deffers · 25 May 2014 at 22:33

tamzzy said:
do eeet properly! ;p
YOUR BASKET
2 x VTX3D Radeon R9 290 V2 X-Edition 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (VXR9 290 4GBD5-DHX) £299.99 (£599.98)
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £239.99
1 x Crucial M500 480GB SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive - (CT480M500SSD1) £164.99
1 x NZXT Phantom 630 High Performance Modular Ultra Tower Case - Black £145.99
1 x EVGA SuperNova G2 1000W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £131.99
1 x Kingston HyperX 16GB (2x8GB) PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Red (HX24C11BRK2/16-OC) £119.99
1 x Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 3 Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £104.99
1 x XSPC RX360 Triple Fan Radiator V3 £84.95
1 x Western Digital Caviar Red 2TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache WD20EFRX - OEM HDD £74.99
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-DCP 4.0 PWM X-RES (incl. pump) £74.99
2 x EK Water Blocks EK-FC R9-290X - Acetal £73.99 (£147.98)
1 x XSPC RX240 Dual Fan Radiator V3 £64.99
1 x Pioneer BDC-207DBK 8x BluRay ROM / DVDRW SATA-II Optical Drive - Black (OEM) £49.99
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-Supremacy - Acetal £49.99
2 x Monsoon 16/11mm (ID 7/16 OD 5/8) Free Center Compression Fitting Six Pack - Matte Black £27.95 (£55.90)
3 x Corsair SP120 Performance Series High Pressure - Dual Pack (CO-9050008-WW) £22 (£66.00)
2 x Mayhems X1 Clear Premixed Watercooling Fluid 1L £7.99 (£15.98)
2 x Primochill Primoflex Advanced Tubing 16/11 - Red £5.99 (£11.98)
Total : £2,225.86 (includes shipping : £16.85).

Thanks for the help mate but I wanted to use nvidia cards, the rest of looks bloody amazing though!!

Deffers · 25 May 2014 at 22:50

tamzzy said:
t'was a quick punt ;p
just showing what you can do with watercooling ;p

I'd love a rig the is water-cooled, and thanks again. I know so little about this stuff I'm grateful for your advise. I have been reading up on the AMD cards and I'm just a little worried about driver problems and the like, it seems nvidia have a bit of an edge where that stuff is concerned. Because of my noobness, I want a system that is kind of easy to use, just to give me time to get my head around the other tech stuff, I'm confident that once I do have a bit of an idea i'll love the tweaking side of things.

Deffers · 25 May 2014 at 23:08

tamzzy said:
amd's drivers have improved vastly over the years. im using a amd card and i've had no problems with it whatsoever

I have just had a quick price up of a AMD 290 x 2 system. Would save me a nice few quid......... Just not sure, maybe I'll have a read up and see. This isn't being put together until the end of June so I have time, Intel have some new processors coming out soon I believe and price dependent I may go for one of those.

I should imagine a lot may change with my suggested system, and that was the point of me joining this forum. I used to have an AMD card, can't remember what it was called but it was the dog's back in the day lol. I managed with that so i'm open to AMD suggestions now.

Deffers · 25 May 2014 at 23:33

The__Malteser said:
I have a 280x and I have never had driver problems. Older card was AMD too, no problems either.

AMD generally have better bang for buck cards, but at 2K, I don;t think that's the main problem

I've always had nvidia cards other than one so I guess I am a little swayed in that direction, but it's just a case of that's what I know. I agree the bang for the buck definitely sway's toward AMD. The 2k is a problem lol......... It's a lot of money and I would be happy to make a saving and get a decent rig.

I have time and I just want to get this right and to be honest I hadn't really considered AMD but now I am so all is cool............

Deffers · 26 May 2014 at 00:08

tamzzy said:
sli 780ti vs xfire 290x
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1073?vs=1075

not much between them

No their isn't...... Got me thinking now lol :confused:

I need to look at this again, I thought I had it sussed, well nearly sussed. I'm going to look into this a bit more. What's that 295 x2 card like, I see it seems to wipe the board with pretty much everything when I've been looking for 780ti benchmarks ??

Deffers · 26 May 2014 at 00:19

tamzzy said:
the 295x is basically 2 290x in xfire and then some ;p

Without the heat and noise apparently, only what i've read but it's water cooled I think.

I'm smiling now lol

Wouldn't mind a bit of that!! lol

Deffers · 26 May 2014 at 00:26

tamzzy said:
not worth it at the current prices though. you can get a properly watercooled xfire 290x for the same price

Would that give similar performance??

Deffers · 26 May 2014 at 00:34

tamzzy said:
yes, and more overclocking headroom

Please don't think me cheeky. Would you be as kind as to get a system together with a top price of 2500 and post it for me?? I don't know if this is possible for that money but that is my limit, unless it only goes a little over lol

Deffers · 26 May 2014 at 00:55

tamzzy said:
YOUR BASKET
2 x Powercolor Radeon R9 290X 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £349.99 (£699.98)
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £239.99
1 x Crucial M500 480GB SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive - (CT480M500SSD1) £164.99
1 x NZXT Phantom 630 High Performance Modular Ultra Tower Case - Black £145.99
1 x EVGA SuperNova G2 1000W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £131.99
1 x Kingston HyperX 16GB (2x8GB) PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Red (HX24C11BRK2/16-OC) £119.99
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-D5 Vario X-RES 100 (incl. pump) £105.95
1 x Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 3 Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £104.99
1 x XSPC RX360 Triple Fan Radiator V3 £84.95
1 x Western Digital Caviar Red 2TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache WD20EFRX - OEM HDD £74.99
2 x EK Water Blocks EK-FC R9-290X - Acetal £73.99 (£147.98)
1 x XSPC RX240 Dual Fan Radiator V3 £64.99
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-Supremacy - Acetal £49.99
1 x Pioneer BDC-207DBK 8x BluRay ROM / DVDRW SATA-II Optical Drive - Black (OEM) £49.99
1 x NZXT HUE RGB LED Controller - Black £39.98
1 x NZXT Sentry 3 Touch Screen Fan Control £35.99
3 x Monsoon 16/11mm (ID 7/16 OD 5/8) Free Center Compression Fitting Six Pack - Matte Black £27.95 (£83.85)
1 x NZXT Phantom 630 Window Side Panel - Matte Black £24.95
3 x Corsair SP120 Performance Series High Pressure - Dual Pack (CO-9050008-WW) £22 (£66.00)
2 x Mayhems X1 Clear Premixed Watercooling Fluid 1L £7.99 (£15.98)
2 x Primochill Primoflex Advanced Tubing 16/11 - Red £5.99 (£11.98)
Total : £2,485.69 (includes shipping : £16.85).

full windowed case, sparkly lights and fan controller included ;p

You have me interested, very interested. The only thing i'm concerned about is powercolor. Are these quality cards or would I be better off getting something a little more costly, the Asus cards maybe?? I dread to think how much I'll get charged for putting this thing together lol

Deffers · 26 May 2014 at 01:16

Tamzzy, thanks very much for your advise. I will be seriously thinking about the system you have proposed. I need to give Overclockers a call to see what it's going to cost to build and ship. I will let you know how things work out and thanks again.

Steve

Deffers · 26 May 2014 at 08:25

The__Malteser said:
My first card was AMD. I wanted to try Nvidia, because a few people (off the forums) think they are better. Benchmarks and price point swayed me towards AMD again though, even if I really wanted to try Nvidia.

Build it yourself Its not that hard (although water cooling may be a bit iffy) and MANY people on the forum are willing to help you out. There are also some god youtube guides (Newegg guide is quite good)

I shudder at the thought of building it myself lol, I just don't have the confidence and my habit of cocking up anything that involves having patience is legendary lol

Deffers · 26 May 2014 at 08:48

Doomedspeed said:
This thread has progressed quite rapidly.

Id like tammzy's 2.5k WC rig though i saw a few loop holes.

Hue controller with no lights?
Messy Fan controller.
Non-ideal fittings.
Not black and white

Very picky but all can be fixed, see spoiler:

No messy fan/LED controllers, the H440 has a built in fan controller (around the back of the case) to run upto 10 Fans off PWM control.

Black and white theme, with white coolant and white fans.

Rotary fittings for cleaner lines in the loop.

YOUR BASKET
2 x Powercolor Radeon R9 290X 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £349.99 (£699.98)
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £239.99
1 x Gigabyte Z97X-UD3H-BK Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £139.99
1 x EVGA SuperNova G2 1000W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £131.99
1 x TeamGroup Xtreem LV "Frost Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit £129.95
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £119.98
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-D5 Vario X-RES 100 (incl. pump) £105.95
1 x NZXT H440 Mid Tower Case - White £94.99
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-FC R9-290X - Nickel (Original CSQ) £85.37
1 x XSPC RX240 Dual Fan Radiator V3 £64.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £59.99
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-Supremacy £49.99
1 x XSPC EX360 120mm Radiator - Black £47.99
1 x Mayhems Pastel - Ice White Coolant 1L £14.99
6 x Alpenföhn 120mm Wing Boost Plus PWM Fan - Black & White £12.95 (£77.70)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 24pin ATX extension 30cm - White £8.99
4 x Monsoon 16/10mm (OD 5/8) Rotary 90° - Matte Black £8.69 (£34.76)
4 x BitFenix Alchemy 8pin PCI-E extension 45cm - White £6.98 (£27.92)
2 x Primochill Primoflex Advanced Tubing 16/11 - White £5.99 (£11.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 8pin EPS extension 45cm - White £5.99
8 x Monsoon 16/10mm (ID 3/8 OD 5/8) Free Center Compression Fitting - Matte Black £5.45 (£43.60)
Total : £2,217.26 (includes shipping : £16.85).

Though like Tamzzy i wouldn't go for that, like he said, id spend 1.5k Max on a gaming rig really.

room can be left for upgrades but try a 1.5k rig first then if it doesn't cut the mustard just add a second GPU.

This is my 1.5k rig idea:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Powercolor Radeon R9 290 PCS+ OC 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £319.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £239.99
1 x Gigabyte Z97X-UD3H-BK Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £139.99
1 x SuperFlower Leadex GOLD 850W Fully Modular "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £129.95
1 x TeamGroup Xtreem LV "Frost Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit £129.95
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £119.98
1 x Corsair Obsidian 450D High Airflow Mid-Tower Case (CC-9011049-WW) £91.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H105 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060016-WW ) £84.95
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £59.99
1 x Corsair SP120 Performance Series High Pressure - Dual Pack (CO-9050008-WW) £22
2 x Corsair AF120 Performance Series Low Noise High Airflow - Dual Pack (CO-9050004-WW) £22 (£44.00)
Total : £1,397.76 (includes shipping : £12.50).

Black and white in perfect harmony.

The Cooler has a blue/red/white ring for customisation (use the white one).

The Leadex has white LED whites on the connectors.

The board and GPU are both black.

The case has a great style and airflow.

It looks amazing but I do prefer the 2.5k setup you have posted. The only reason I am going for the best that I can now is I have managed to get that number past my Mrs, If I was to go for a 1.5k rig and wish to upgrade at some point down the road, it could get tricky!! So, with this in mind I've decided to go balls out and get a rig that will be able to handle a 1440p monitor from the start. With luck and some grovelling I may be able to get the 1440p monitor for Xmas and then my system will be complete, for a good while anyhow.

The AMD systems really interest me but my head keeps switching back to nvidia, then AMD and so on... I guess the original system I posted, the one you kindly commented on is still a contender, with a few tweaks gleaned from the info you guys have provided. And, I have managed to get a sli 780ti down to 2k

I think my main, thing, is... What would be gained spending a nice chunk on watercooling when I can get a sli 780ti system that will stay cool and quiet for the same money?? Granted the watercooled systems look amazing and I should hope they would be quieter than air cooled 780ti's?? But, I am concerned that with all of the tech it just gives more opportunity for things to go wrong, which is fine if you know what you are doing, but I don't have much of a clue at the moment.