CPU at 75*C

Juicy Jama · 27 Feb 2020 at 10:45

Hey guys,

Started messing around with streaming lately and noticed frames were dropping.

Started checking what it might be and I see the CPU is at a minimum of 75*C while streaming and playing Apex.

Is this okay ? Should I be getting a better cooler ?

Currently on X570, Ryzen 5 3600 with stock wraith cooler, 16Gb RAM.

Joxeon · 27 Feb 2020 at 10:54

Juicy Jama said:
Hey guys,

Started messing around with streaming lately and noticed frames were dropping.

Started checking what it might be and I see the CPU is at a minimum of 75*C while streaming and playing Apex.

Is this okay ? Should I be getting a better cooler ?

The stock cooler is pretty poor and upgrading to even a budget cooler like the arctic freezer or hyper evo 212 would improve temps a lot, that said for gaming and streaming you would definitely benefit from higher core count CPU like a 3700x.

keylion · 27 Feb 2020 at 10:56

If that is your minimum temperature then I'd definitely be looking at getting an aftermarket cooler.

Juicy Jama · 27 Feb 2020 at 10:57

keylion said:
If that is your minimum temperature then I'd definitely be looking at getting an aftermarket cooler.

Should clarify, minimum when streaming and gaming. Gaming alone is more like 50ish

Juicy Jama · 27 Feb 2020 at 10:58

Joxeon said:
The stock cooler is pretty poor and upgrading to even a budget cooler like the arctic freezer or hyper evo 212 would improve temps a lot, that said for gaming and streaming you would definitely benefit from higher core count CPU like a 3700x.

Didnt think I would bother with streaming hence I got the 3600. Will consider upgrading once the new gen is released.

Joxeon · 27 Feb 2020 at 11:10

Juicy Jama said:
Didnt think I would bother with streaming hence I got the 3600. Will consider upgrading once the new gen is released.

That's definitely a good shout, I too got the 3600 as I didnt want to spend big till the final generation of CPUs are released, that said the 3600 is still an excellent CPU.

Juicy Jama · 27 Feb 2020 at 11:12

Joxeon said:
That's definitely a good shout, I too got the 3600 as I didnt want to spend big till the final generation of CPUs are released, that said the 3600 is still an excellent CPU.

Also need to play around with gfx settings and stream settings. Maybe something is set too high. Playing at ultra on most games at 1440p

I have no idea what I'm doing lol

Joxeon · 27 Feb 2020 at 11:19

Juicy Jama said:
Also need to play around with gfx settings and stream settings. Maybe something is set too high. Playing at ultra on most games at 1440p

I have no idea what I'm doing lol

I have to change the res from 1440p to 1080p and lower the graphics settings to stay at 144hz in apex though my gpu isn't as good as yours with it being a gtx 1070ti. I think you would need an rtx 2080ti to stay above 144hz at 1440p with ultra settings so maybe going to medium will be your sweet spot.

doyll · 27 Feb 2020 at 17:00

How is your case airflow setup? What is air temp into CPU cooler when you are getting these high temps? In my experience if case has good airflow the air temp into both CPU and GPU coolers when both are under heavy load is only 2-4c warmer than room. Problem is few if any stock cases have good fans and even fewer have them setup so they supply cool air to coolers. Below link is to basic tutorial about airflow and how to optimize case airflow. It's old but same still applies so maybe it will help:
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...-i-put-my-temp-sensor.18564223/#post-26159770

Juicy Jama · 28 Feb 2020 at 12:20

doyll said:
How is your case airflow setup? What is air temp into CPU cooler when you are getting these high temps? In my experience if case has good airflow the air temp into both CPU and GPU coolers when both are under heavy load is only 2-4c warmer than room. Problem is few if any stock cases have good fans and even fewer have them setup so they supply cool air to coolers. Below link is to basic tutorial about airflow and how to optimize case airflow. It's old but same still applies so maybe it will help:
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...-i-put-my-temp-sensor.18564223/#post-26159770

Thanks Doyll. Its a corsair 220t case with 3 SP120 RGB Pro fans for intake and 1 LL120 for out

doyll · 28 Feb 2020 at 16:03

Juicy Jama said:
Thanks Doyll. Its a corsair 220t case with 3 SP120 RGB Pro fans for intake and 1 LL120 for out

First thing I would do is remove all PCIe back slot covers to increase rear vent area around and below GPU. I know they are vented by removed will about triple their vent area and give much better front to back airflow around GPU which should lower air temp going into both CPU and GPU coolers.

If there are any openings in front fan mounting panel not covered by fans, tape them off so airflow the fans are pushing into case has to move back and out, not leak in front of fans and go in circles.

Obviously set case fan speed curves so the match airflow demands of cooler fans. For example if CPU cooler has 140mm fan then 120mm case fans need to be running 15-20% faster, and for GPU's with 80/90mm fans case can run a little slower.

Exhaut fan in back might help. Any others will likely cause higher temps. Your 3x 120mm front intakes can easily push air through and out of case with no exhaut fans at all. Just front intake fans at same dB as front intakes and exhaust fans will flow basically the same amount of air.

Juicy Jama · 2 Mar 2020 at 09:27

doyll said:
First thing I would do is remove all PCIe back slot covers to increase rear vent area around and below GPU. I know they are vented by removed will about triple their vent area and give much better front to back airflow around GPU which should lower air temp going into both CPU and GPU coolers.

If there are any openings in front fan mounting panel not covered by fans, tape them off so airflow the fans are pushing into case has to move back and out, not leak in front of fans and go in circles.

Obviously set case fan speed curves so the match airflow demands of cooler fans. For example if CPU cooler has 140mm fan then 120mm case fans need to be running 15-20% faster, and for GPU's with 80/90mm fans case can run a little slower.

Exhaut fan in back might help. Any others will likely cause higher temps. Your 3x 120mm front intakes can easily push air through and out of case with no exhaut fans at all. Just front intake fans at same dB as front intakes and exhaust fans will flow basically the same amount of air.

Thanks so much man. "Air leaking" in the front is an interesting thought. Will def check it out.

I have got 3 x LL120 fans coming to replace the SP fans this week. When installing will double check all of this and potentially remove some of the back slot covers.

doyll · 2 Mar 2020 at 18:05

LL 120 should work okay. Please let us know how it all works out.