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CPU/Platform choice for VM Workstation / Gaming PC

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Ok so now that AMD's kaveri benchmarks are out there etc, I'm now back to thinking what processor to make my gaming / VM workstation with.

Intel's i7 4770K is out due to the lack of support for vPro/TXT/VT-d.
So that leaves me with the non-K variant or to go for something like the Xeon E3-1230v3 (or higher) which is considerably cheaper, and should post decent performance in games too.

Then there's Intel's socket 2011 platform. An i7 4820K would be a great processor but the cost of entry into this platform (especially knowing that it will be replaced by the X99 platform by the end of the year) is steep. <£200 for a motherboard just for starters.

Then we have AMD. I have been strongly looking at Kaveri thinking that it might actually be a great way into making a computer for VM's and then adding a dedicated graphics card to at a later point to make it my gaming computer as well. (The APU's aren't crazy expensive and suitable motherboards are relatively cheap (compared to either of the intel setups above))
Unfortunately going from benchmarks it does seem that the processor will bottleneck a high end graphics card so it isn't looking like the best long term solution. (it does looks like a great laptop or HTPC APU though)

Last but not least is AMD's FX line up, the FX-8350 can be had for a reasonable amount of money and a decent motherboard is around the same as an Intel Z87 based motherboard so it's not bad from a budget perspective, but gaming performance will suffer a bit compared to Intel's offerings.

So currently out of the options I currently have the Intel Xeon as my top choice due to performance, heat and a reasonable price. Also as far as I know (this may have changed) but I will be doing some work with Linux as well and Intel's always had better support under linux than AMD which is something else pushing me in that direction.

Anyhow has anyone else been in this position?
Is the Xeon E3-12xx v3 skt1150 the best way to go or should I really make the jump up to the skt2011 platform to ensure I have the best possible VM workstation performance and gaming performance.
 
How about you upgrade your current CPU to a six core Core i7 980X??

I want to keep my current setup and install running as is, but make a new pc with a more powerful CPU and a fresh install of windows for VM's and gaming. My current pc is doing everything at the moment, so I want to start segregating some of the things I do on it onto a dedicated pc.

Plus I also have a bit of an upgrade itch too. lol
 
I want to keep my current setup and install running as is, but make a new pc with a more powerful CPU and a fresh install of windows for VM's and gaming. My current pc is doing everything at the moment, so I want to start segregating some of the things I do on it onto a dedicated pc.

Plus I also have a bit of an upgrade itch too. lol

How about you get an FX8320 for the VM work?? It will cost under £110,plus a basic motherboard will cost £50 and you can get a low end Nvidia card for around £30. It will cost less than any Core i7. Even the Xeon E3 1230 V3 is around £180 IIRC and needs a graphics card too.

Your current setup should be fine for gaming IMHO,especially since games are starting to use more threads now.

Edit!!

The other advantage of that is you could go with a more basic PSU,case and other parts too.
 
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Unfortunately going from benchmarks it does seem that the processor will bottleneck a high end graphics card so it isn't looking like the best long term solution. (it does looks like a great laptop or HTPC APU though)

Practically no modern CPU bottlenecks a single GPU enough to make a game unplayable, so I would be surprised if kaveri did (especially with mantle). The only chart I can find of kaveri + dedicated GPU is below - tomb raider on medium with a gtx 580 - where kaveri is only 7 % slower than the top intel chips at 1080.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_a8_7600_apu_review,16.html

Don't rule kaveri out just on gpu-bottlenecking.
 
GPU's have moved on a fair amount from the 580, when 20NM comes, we'll be almost 4 times as fast :p
Why would he get that when he has an i7 9XX and wants something faster as per his posting :p?
 
Practically no modern CPU bottlenecks a single GPU enough to make a game unplayable, so I would be surprised if kaveri did (especially with mantle). The only chart I can find of kaveri + dedicated GPU is below - tomb raider on medium with a gtx 580 - where kaveri is only 7 % slower than the top intel chips at 1080.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_a8_7600_apu_review,16.html

Don't rule kaveri out just on gpu-bottlenecking.


http://www.hardcoreware.net/kaveri-review-a10-7850k/4/

In BF4 with High Preset at 1920*1080
Kaveri 7850k with R9 290X is giving: 72.733 fps
Intel i5 4670 with R9 290X is giving: 95.217 fps

That's not an insignificant difference in frame rates.
FX 8350 gives a respectable 90.25 fps in this test too.
 
I don't buy an i3 Haswell bottlenecking an R9 290X less than an FX83 in BF4 :p

Huh, good point I wasn't paying any real attention to the i3 in that benchmark.

Put the main point stands that as good as kaveri is, it will bottleneck a high end GPU so for my future plans it's not the best choice.
 
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