CPU upgrade but is everything else suitable

Baz21226

Baz21226

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Hi, I'm wondering about upgrading from a 2600 to a new 3600 as I game at 1080p and wanting the better IPC speeds but was worried I've read they like 3200mhz ram or more, below is my motherboard and ram and was just wondering if it's all suitable and if there would be a big enough difference only using 3000mhz Ram compared to the recommended? Thanks

Also wanted to say it's partnered with a RTX2070 and feel at 1080p with the 2600 I don't get the best from it

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £381.07 (includes shipping: £11.10)
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Journey said:
Well you *might* see some uplift, in a few games at 1080p. Guess it depends on how much you can sell the 2600 for, as £190 for a few FPS is not great value. The better use of the money would be sell the RTX 2070, and use that extra £190 towards an RTX 2080 Super, then you'd have a reason to upgrade. Or grab one of the EOL bargain standard RTX 2080's which should be <£499. :)
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Ok thanks for the reply but selling my GPU is out of the question when I bought the pc from overclockers sometime this year I was told it would be worth the wait to put a 3600 in my system judging on early reviews and whispers so I'm happy with everything else with my system, was just wondering if it was worth going for one or maybe a second hand Ryzen 7?
 
Journey said:
Worth is the key question, ask yourself what is spending £200 going to get you? What games are you struggling with to get 144FPS that is CPU limited? Have you checked if the GPU is being pushed to 100% in all your games at the setting you play at?
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I only really play Battlefield games and never hit 144fps at 1080p ok might sound like a noonish question but I'm new to pc gaming, if the GPU isn't hitting 100% would the upgrade be a 1440p monitor? It's something I can check but not over the next few days as I have work the next 3 days
 
Journey said:
If the GPU isn't hitting 100% it means that the CPU isn't providing the GPU with data fast enough, or doing what it needs to do fast enough so the GPU needs to slow down until the CPU catches up etc. Lots of reasons but that is one of them
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Ok I will try and find out but I've just recently reset my pc so lost all my games that were installed so il install bfv but your above point does sound true. If that happens then which CPU would be worth going for?
 
Journey said:
R5 3600 will do a fine job tbh, just install MSI Afterburner with Riva Tuner and look at hte GPU/CPU usage in the games. Plenty of guides on Youtube or website on how to set it up if you've not done it before.
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Ok, I'm currently installing the game again now il try and do some testing 2moro night after work and get back to you. As for MSI afterburner I have used it before. Thanks for the help @Journey
 
Journey said:
Not worth it, just put the RAM to 3200MHz in the BIOS when you get the new CPU.
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My original Ram? I didn't think I'd be able to push it to 3200mhz when it's stated to use up to 3000mhz. So the plan would be buy the new CPU which I have money for now, sell my 2600 buy the 3200mhz from that and then sell my 3000mhz Ram.
 
Journey said:
Have you seen the name of the forum you are on? LOL.

I have some 2666MHz running at 3466MHz, there is no harm in trying once you have the new CPU, why waste the cash for nothing? 3000-3200 will give you 1-2% difference if you are lucky.
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Lol I understand CPU and GPU oc's so what is considered a safe voltage to pass through the ram to see if I can hit 3200mhz?
 
@Journey Hi I have managed to do some quick testing tonight on BFV and can share my results below I played 2 different maps in both ultra and low settings and with dx11 and dx12 rotated between settings. All testing was done in the same general location on all different settings.

So map 1 Rotterdam

DX11/Ultra Settings- GPU Usage 40%, CPU Usage 70%, FPS 60.
DX11/Low Settings- GPU Usage 50%, CPU Usage 85%, FPS 90.
DX12/Ultra Settings- GPU Usage 65%, CPU Usage 85%, FPS 90.
DX12/Low Settings- GPU Usage 65%, CPU Usage 85%, FPS 115.

Map 2 Panzerstorm

DX11/Ultra Settings- GPU Usage 60%, CPU Usage 60%, FPS 80.
DX11/Low Settings- GPU Usage 50%, CPU Usage 70%, FPS 110.
DX12/Ultra Settings- GPU Usage 60%, CPU Usage 80%, FPS 110.
DX12/Low Settings- GPU Usage 80%, CPU Usage 90%, FPS 90.

Hope this helps which ever settings i choose the game is still a stuttery mess sometimes and just wanting to make it a better experience to play any questions about my system please ask.​
 
Journey said:
Something seems off or just plain odd with those usage statistics.

The graphics card seems heavily bottlenecked in all of the results, yet the CPU isn't hitting 100% either. Is your operating system install reasonably clean or new? What else are you running at the same time? :)
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Yes windows is fresh around 3 days and only thing I had running was MSI and rivatuner. I'm just booting up Vampyr to see how it fairs on there
 
Journey said:
Do you see why something just doesn't add up?
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Just been looking at Reddit forums and people say I need to change a setting on bfv for it to run more stable. Also I've read people having the same problem with the Vampyr game. I think I need to do tests on some other game
 
orbitalwalsh said:
Guessing Nvidia power plan is set to Max performance over balanced ?

1080p, would be upscaling to 1440p with that ! Specially with a ryzen 2600k !

Would get OP to try that , see if GPU hits 100% at least
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Thanks for the info guys I will try the above out, game wasn't capped at 100 but 100 was average I did hit 144 in places. I downloaded Tomb Raider and Witcher 3 last night so will do some benchmarks on them and compare with YouTube videos to see if I get similar results, but currently at work so can't do that while later tonight
 
Just checked Witcher 3 out was hitting maximum 98 GPU utilisation drops down to low 90s in places with a CPU usage of mid 30s to 50s. Was hitting over 144fps as well. That was at high settings. Tomb raider was roughly same never went above 95 on GPU utilisation at the time I was playing, CPU was hovering the 30s 40s with FPS above the 144.
As for changing to balanced power mode I don't have that option available only adaptive, optimal and prefer maximum I chose adaptive.

So seems as though it's just down to optimisation of the games I was playing on the figures I quoted before, as for my GPU not hitting 100% is this due to the CPU then and the option of going for the 3600 could potentially help with this and my performance in BFV as this is my main go to game. Thanks for the help guys
 
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