Crashes, hardware lag and ping spikes :(

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Hi guys,

I'm after a little brainstorming session and hopefully some advice on my problems. My PC spec is in my sig, altho it's not overclocked at the mo (apart from the gfx card).

Recently, I've experienced some slightly odd crashes and instability. Of course when these crashes happened, I clocked the PC back, tested it, tried overclocking again etc. After a period of of a few weeks, my PC has ended up back at stock speeds with no crashes, but I do have some other problems that have developed since.

Now, I get very strange hardware lags, where my mouse and keyboard don't respond correctly to my input. This happens predominantly on Call of Duty 2 multiplayer. During these 'hardware lags', my ping is fine, and my gf's PC next to me has a perfect ping and no lag (we're sharing the same ADSL connection via a router and both play CoD2). I also experience seperate ping spikes when once again my gf's ping is normal. These two symptons are mutually exclusive (they never occur simultaneously).

Originally I suspected that my RAM had developed a fault. I came to this conclusion because whenever I set my CAS latency to 2.5, my PC crashes upon booting windows, yet it's fine enough to run Windows, PS, DW and CoD2 running CAS 1.5 or 2. However, memtest tells me otherwise, and I simply can't get any faults to show on the RAM no matter what settings I use (within reason, of course!).

Next my finger pointed to the memory controller in my Venice CPU. It seems odd that CAS 2.5 is unstable, yet CAS 1.5 and CAS 2 are stable enough to run windows and play CoD2.

Now I'm thinking that it could be my Ultra-D mobo, as I'm using the onboard nVidia LAN to connect to my router (might explain the ping spikes perhaps).

Basically, I'm a bit stuck as to what to try next to attempt to isolate the problem. I don't want to RMA the mobo or the RAM if they are not the culprit. I guess if it's the CPU then I simply have to buy a new one (Venice 3000+ running at 2.66Ghz probably won't be covered by warranty :rolleyes: )

Any advice on what to test next would be much appreciated! I don't have easy access to any other s939 CPUs or mobos which is a pain. I do however have access to some Crucial Value DDR, altho I'm pretty certain that it's not the RAM at fault anyway. I'll try some benchmarks and stuff over the next few days to see if they give me any more ideas.

Cheers,
Nami
 
OK it's priming on large FFTs today whilst I'm at work, and it's done about 3 hours now without a problem. I'm beginning to suspect the mobo. I still would appreciate some help on this tho!
 
You have not mentioned the board you're using.

Do you have anything in the other PC you could borrow to test with?....

Hard to isolate a problem without having parts to swap in.
 
Ah sorry I thought my board was in my sig - I'll add it now. It's a DFI nF4 Ultra-D.

On a slightly different note (but perhaps related to the symptoms I experience) I ran a Prime95 blend test whilst I was at work today. It ran for approximately 6 hours without any errors, but only completed 2 tests. The CPU was mostly 15% utilised (average, fluctuating fairly rapidly between 0% and 50%) and the RAM was constantly 99%. When I run a small FFT or large FFT test, it completes them rapidly and would have completed perhaps 10-15 tests in the same time. Is this speed difference with the blend test normal?
 
Easier way to know is to run the same tests on another PC, if the other PC is a little slower, the margin of difference wont be that big.

Alternatively just look around the web for average times.

PS. You didnt say wether you had another PC you could test with, its the easiest way to track hardware issues.
 
My gf's PC is right next to me, but it's s754 so the only thing I can really test is the RAM.

I'm memtesting all night tonight on CAS 2.5 (which is what gives me the problems) and tomoz I'll try swapping the RAM in both PCs and see what happens then.

Cheers for ** comments :)
 
I get brief lag/lockups on my PC too. I'm pretty sure it's down to my firewall/antivirus or somesuch. That would also explain the ping problems too.

Of course, if you're not running either of these, then that rules those out. :)
 
Sounds like the exact issue I had with my Abit KD7-Raid motherboard a few years ago.

Replaced it with a NF7 and all was instantly well.

If you have another board to try I suggest that. :)

If it was PSU related I am sure the fault would cause the PC to reboot, so I doubt it could be that.

You tried a fresh XP install?
 
I reinstalled just 2 weeks ago, but these problems have developed since then. A fresh install is on my 'to do' list, but I just want to focus on testing the hardware prior to changing anything major. I'll probably reinstall this weekend :)

I'm fairly sure it's nothing to do with the PSU - it seems far to specific to the CAS timing to come down to a PSU problem.

I'm also certain it's nothing to do with virus scanner/firewall. I use AVG Free which is updated daily, but I'll uninstall it and do some tests to be sure.

EDIT: When I set the RAM timing to 2.5 and try to boot windows, I often get a BSOD. At the mo, it restarts too quickly for me to see what the problem is. Would someone remind me how to change that so that I can write down the details? :)
 
Cheers mate! :D

I'll do that tonight (or get my gf to do it during the day ;)) and post the error results in case that provides us with useful information :cool:
 
Well it's passed test #5 for over 4 hrs, 237 passes, no errors. Test #8 up and running now, should be done by 5.30pm GMT! Then I'll try to get the info on the BSOD and I'll swap the RAM between the two PCs.

I still strongly believe that the RAM is not at fault, and that it's most likely the memory controller in the CPU. I guess time will tell! ;)
 
OK, so memtest #8 ran for over 4 hours and completed 101 passes without errors.

I also have the BSOD error log:

bsod.jpg


Gonna try a few more things, but any suggestions are still welcome :)
 
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