Crashing after sleep?

Zeebedy · Monday at 15:26

Hey guys,

I put my MM to sleep about an hour ago, came back to it and it had rebooted from a "crash" which I couldn't tell how to check what it was..

I have now updated from Sequoia 15.1 to 15.2..

Is there anything that could be causing this? Maybe my wired "gaming" keyboard or the Wireless mouse?

nlel1975 · Monday at 15:40

I stopped putting mine into sleep when it kept waking up the monitor sporadically, the general advice is not to put it into sleep, just shut it down.

Feek · Monday at 16:03

nlel1975 said:
the general advice is not to put it into sleep, just shut it down.

It's not Windows, Macs should sleep and recover very reliably. I've never heard anyone advise shutting down a Mac over sleeping it :confused:

@Zeebedy Time to start looking at the logs.

nlel1975 · Monday at 16:04

Feek said:
It's not Windows, Macs should sleep and recover very reliably. I've never heard anyone advise shutting down a Mac over sleeping it

You've obviously never visited the official Apple discussion forums.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255892800?sortBy=rank

picnic · Monday at 16:14

Pretty sure my M4 MM never goes to sleep, it's always warm to the touch

Feek · Monday at 16:20

nlel1975 said:
You've obviously never visited the official Apple discussion forums.

"It is not a good idea to use the sleep function in Mac OS as it tends to cause problems."

lol, complete and utter garbage.

nlel1975 · Monday at 16:23

Feek said:
lol, complete and utter garbage.

With all due respect the guy who responded is Level 10 with 145,342 points

Feek · Monday at 16:34

nlel1975 said:
With all due respect the guy who responded is Level 10 with 145,342 points

And?

Should You Shut Down Your Mac or Let It Sleep Every Night?

One question that new Mac users often ask is whether they should shut down their Macs at the end of the day or just let them sleep. The quick answer is...

eshop.macsales.com

to shut down or to sleep, what`s better? - Apple Community

discussions.apple.com

This one is a reply from a level 10 (whatever that means) with 147,288 points and his first comment is: "Shutting a Mac down routinely actually causes more trouble than it's worth. If you're not going to use it for several days, ok, but nightly is not a good idea."

Is it better to turn off iMac every night… - Apple Community

discussions.apple.com

I can't be arsed to go and find more.

I find it laughable to suggest that the general advice for Macs is not to use sleep, I really do, because it just works so well.

nlel1975 · Monday at 17:08

Feek said:
I find it laughable to suggest that the general advice for Macs is not to use sleep, I really do, because it just works so well.

I’m not bothered anyway, sleep doesn’t work for me with my setup. I don’t mind shutting it down, when I turn it on it’s actually ready to login before the monitor has had the chance to come out of standby. I’m not missing much.

visibleman · Monday at 17:53

Like @Feek says, look at the logs. Good starting point is the 'Crash Reports' (open the 'Console' app), otherwise 'system.log' but you may have to just plough through the lot.
FYI - logs are under '/Library/Logs' (system space) or '~/Library/Logs' (user space).

Feek said:
It's not Windows, Macs should sleep and recover very reliably.

Both platforms sleep fine until they don't

Although arguably it's usually a driver/kext or hardware issue that causes most sleep problems (on both platforms).

Rroff · Monday at 18:01

visibleman said:
Although arguably it's usually a driver/kext or hardware issue that causes most sleep problems (on both platforms).

Yeah though I don't know about Macs but 9 times out of 10 it is a LAN or peripheral controller driver which isn't liking coming out of sleep.

nlel1975 · 2025-01-14T15:24:42+0000

Seems some people over on Reddit having the same problem as me...

https://www.reddit.com/r/macmini/co...i_monitor_keeps_waking_up_in_sleep/?rdt=44204