Crazy phone cam

DanF · 27 Jun 2012 at 10:05

Has anyone else looked at the Nokia 808 stuff springing up? It's using a 41mp camera behind carl zeis glass then sampling down to 5/8mp. It looks much better than a lot of P&S cameras and simply blows the current phone cameras out the water. Pretty scary stuff.

flickr 808 group
808 vid
ephotozine nokia-pureview-808-41mp-first-impressions-review

Being in Nokia it should get put in to a new W8 phone as well.

DanF · 27 Jun 2012 at 10:49

Ah I haven't seen SGSIII pics yet but it's way better than the previous gen i4s/sgs2.

Have to wait for more reviews but the first ones do look pretty promising.

Obligatory low light test 808 vs lx5

DanF · 28 Jun 2012 at 09:54

Nexus said:
It still doesn't change what I said though, it might offer a huge resolution and a nice looking image, but it's still pointless in a camera phone where optically it suffers. Not to mention there is the complete lack of control over the image.

Um so you still didn't read the article

The Carl Zeiss Tessar f/2.4 lens has been specifically designed for this camera phone, as part of an exclusive partnership betwen Carl Zeiss and Nokia, that goes back five years. Carl Zeiss and Nokia explained that because the Carl Zeiss lens in the camera had to be much smaller than larger lenses, it meant they were able to use a much smaller parts in the lens and just 5 different pieces of glass.

The level of resolution the lens is capable of producing has been compared by Carl Zeiss to the Carl Zeiss Planar 2/50 ZM lens, and Carl Zeiss has found that the lens in the PureView 808 is capable of out resolving the more expensive 50mm Planar.

It's basically like shooting with a prime lens but with not that much DOF control, so if your happy with the FOV then it's all good.

planner 2/50 ZM if it didn't come from Carl Zeiss I wouldn't have believed the statement, the lens is more than the whole phone

DanF · 28 Jun 2012 at 13:06

Nexus said:
Read the summary of the review, it was far too long.

And then made a load of assumptions and put then on the internez woohoo

Nexus said:
It might be a better lens than your usual camera phone, but its still got nothing on a decent compact or better. Which again is why Im against the fact that it shoots such a ridiculous amount of resolution, its unnecessary.

And the bit I quoted showed that Carl Zeiss are saying the lens in this camera can capture more res than their own 50/2 ZM prime which is about what £650? which means it's got the ability to capture more res than probably 90% of what DSLR users shove in front of their sensor

and you can get this in something subsidised by your phone company and will always have it with you. You do know that you don't need to lug around a massive DSLR and lens to capture good images right?

DanF · 28 Jun 2012 at 13:42

James J said:
You need one to capture great images though as you have no control with a mobile phone camera. They are just snapshot cameras, nothing more. Try do wildlife photography with a mobile phone or sports. Hell because they can't even use lens filters, doing proper landscape photos are also impossible unless your idea of good is infact "average".

You can point it at things and take pictures which so far look pretty damn good, what more do you need

of course you need specialised kit for specific tasks just like you wouldn't use a 20mm for shooting snow leopards, the camera/lens are just tools to get a job done.