Critique this proposed mini beast please: Lian Li PC TU 100 build

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Clockers, this is what I want to build next....will be my 2nd SFF, and this will be used to game a LOT. The case is a must in this case as I am obsessed with it ;-) Please let know what you think and if you would do anything different (other than the case that is). I play the ARMA series and will be playing The Witcher 3 from day one! Thanks and hope all keep well.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Asus GeForce GTX 970 DirectCU Mini 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £299.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4690K 3.50GHz (Devil's Canyon) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £199.99
1 x Samsung 850 EVO Series M.2 500GB SATA 6Gbps Solid State Drive (MZ-N5E500BW) £172.99
1 x Asus Z97I-Plus Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 Mini ITX Motherboard £105.95
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan GOLD 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLYED316G2133HC11ADC01) £95.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £79.99
1 x Lian Li PC-TU100B Mini-ITX Cube - Black £74.99
1 x Silverstone Strider SST-ST45SF SFX Series - 450 Watt Power Supply £61.99
1 x LiteOn DL-4ETS Slimline Blu-ray Burner SATA Slot Loading - Black £59.99
1 x Western Digital Scorpio Black 2.5" 750GB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (WD7500BPKX) HDD £51.95
1 x Noctua NH-L9i CPU Cooler Low Profile - 92mm £34.99
Total : £1,248.41 (includes shipping : £8.00 Ex.VAT).

 
pdaboy said:
Looks good to me. Are you going to be adding any extra case fans to the build?
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Indeed I was thinking to mod a single intake in line with where the GPU fan would be once installed. Not sure that I will do more than that. Not sure if I will put a fan as the GPU might draw enough of it own fresh air if you just opened the case up a bit. Naturally it will be filtered.
 
Legion said:
You should have a good look at this thread before you commit to the TU100B.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1523355/lian-li-pc-tu100-200-owners-club

With 1 intake and no active exhaust, cases like this are renowned for overheating and noise issues (especially in aluminium)
It can be modded to get things under control, so all is not lost if you are set on the case.
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Thanks Legion....some cracking ideas there I see. I think the main issue really is GPU cooling, but I think a tiny mod to the case could sort that. The build itself will be proper cable managed and modded so no mayhem in the box! ;-)
 
In my experience of a fair few ITX Lian Li cases, how they position the PSU over the board restricts CPU cooler height, this in turn severely hampers CPU temps, even at stock speeds. Plus that Noctua cooler isn't really up to much, probably OK on an i3 or something but for a 95w TDP I wouldn't touch it, especially at that price.

Does that GPU length leave you any room to use the front fan mount for an AIO radiator and fan? I really wouldn't trust any sub 60mm CPU air cooler with keeping that 4690K cool. If you don't plan on overclocking then you may as well opt for one of the 65w 'S' chips like the 4690S.
 
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Telecaster said:
In my experience of a fair few ITX Lian Li cases, how they position the PSU over the board restricts CPU cooler height, this in turn severely hampers CPU temps, even at stock speeds. Plus that Noctua cooler isn't really up to much, probably OK on an i3 or something but for a 95w TDP I wouldn't touch it, especially at that price.

Does that GPU length leave you any room to use the front fan mount for an AIO radiator and fan? I really wouldn't trust any sub 60mm CPU air cooler with keeping that 4690K cool. If you don't plan on overclocking then you may as well opt for one of the 65w 'S' chips like the 4690S.
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You are making some very valid observations here mate, thanks for that. I have seen builds that would allow an AIO cooler in the front (some push-pull with slim fans). I think you have convinced me to go the AIO route really, the question is which one is the best for a light OC, say around 4.4Ghz OC? I mean if that dont work out then I might as well drop to the S chip as you suggested and then also a lower end mobo really as OC will not be an issue. I am pretty sure that even with a H-mobo and S-cpu the little beast would still be a little beast! What do you think? Thanks for the comment man, very insightful and I appreciate that.
 
TBH I prefer air cooling every time mate, but really, in this case and with that CPU I don't think the results are going to be promising, especially with the summer coming.

I had a much better cooler (CryoRig C1) in my Lian Li which had the same config of PSU over the motherboard, I was hitting high 70s whilst gaming with a stock 2500k just because the cooler couldn't pull in enough fresh air.

You'd need to check how much space you have when the GPU is fitted as it seems the front fan/rad thickness would be governed by this. You might get one of the thinner 120 AIOs in like a H55/H75 or you may get lucky and have enough room for a H80i in which case you could keep the K chip + decent OC, only thing you need to be wary of then is the warm air from the rad/fan blowing over the GPU.
 
Telecaster said:
TBH I prefer air cooling every time mate, but really, in this case and with that CPU I don't think the results are going to be promising, especially with the summer coming.

I had a much better cooler (CryoRig C1) in my Lian Li which had the same config of PSU over the motherboard, I was hitting high 70s whilst gaming with a stock 2500k just because the cooler couldn't pull in enough fresh air.

You'd need to check how much space you have when the GPU is fitted as it seems the front fan/rad thickness would be governed by this. You might get one of the thinner 120 AIOs in like a H55/H75 or you may get lucky and have enough room for a H80i in which case you could keep the K chip + decent OC, only thing you need to be wary of then is the warm air from the rad/fan blowing over the GPU.
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Mate was going to ask how you are getting on with the M1?
 
I'm selling it!

Not because it's bad but because I did some overtime and managed to buy some new bits for another case I have so I wont be needing the M1.

It's an amazing case though, for it's size it's unbelievable what you can get in one. Same CryoRig cooler as was hitting high 70s/80s on a stock 2500k in my Lian Li case was sitting at mid 60s @ 4.5ghz just because the M1 has waaaaay better airflow.

In fact it will all be for sale, Z77 MITX board, 2500k, M1 case, CryoRig cooler, GTX960 etc..
 
Right I have re-spec'd to the following. Sadly I think I will let go of the Lian Li case ;-(. Do you think this is a better build? Thanks
YOUR BASKET
1 x EVGA GeForce GTX 970 Superclock 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (04G-P4-1972-KR) £299.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4690K 3.50GHz (Devil's Canyon) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £199.99
1 x Samsung 850 EVO Series M.2 500GB SATA 6Gbps Solid State Drive (MZ-N5E500BW) £172.99
1 x Asus Z97I-Plus Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 Mini ITX Motherboard £109.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan GOLD 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLYED316G2133HC11ADC01) £95.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £79.99
1 x Silverstone Fortress FT03 Mini Case - Black (SST-FT03B-Mini USB 3.0) £75.95
1 x Cooler master Nepton 140XL AIO Cooling Solution £74.99
1 x Silverstone Strider SST-ST45SF SFX Series - 450 Watt Power Supply £61.99
1 x LiteOn DL-4ETS Slimline Blu-ray Burner SATA Slot Loading - Black £59.99
1 x Western Digital Scorpio Black 2.5" 750GB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (WD7500BPKX) HDD £51.95
Total : £1,297.91 (includes shipping : £11.75 Ex.VAT).

 
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I can add that if the nepton 140XL is too big that I can drop to the 120XL model instead. I think the 140XL will fit though as I will not be using the HDD cage in the case which should overcome any clearance issues.
 
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