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Crossfire

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I recently went for a crossfire setup and I can wholeheartedly say it was an awful move to make. Gaming at 1900x1200 I was expecting a fair boost to FPS in most games, what I actually got was a temperamental, unstable and all round hideous experience.

Positives:

A few k more 3d marks.

Two cards look good sat in my case.

Slight FPS gain in most games.

E-peen bragging rights.

Negatives:

E-peen bragging rights, it's not big and it's not clever.

Cost for the performance is terrible, luckily my second 4870 was just under £100 so I can re-sell it.

Heat, these cards run hot, two together can heat a room.

Previously rock solid games are now crashing

Noise, for some unknown reason the fans on these two will not spin up in sync, so I end up with a constant whine. Setting fan speeds in CCC doesn't solve this as it only seems to influence the top card.

Power consumption is terrible, these cards have incredibly high idle power draw compared to their nVidia rivals.

FPS decrease in some games (Crysis I'm looking at you).

A few k more 3dmarks. I had never had any interest in synthetic benchmarks but was forced to install it as I couldn't tell if crossfire was working because of the abysmal performance gains.

Stuttering where there was none before, I assume this is due to the cards taking turns to render frames.

Graphical glitches and missing textures in areas where neither card running on their own would have any trouble whatsoever.

Final thoughts

I admit that some of the lack of performance increase is likely due to the 512mb vram on each card but this still fails to account for the rest of the issues.

I have always had my doubts over multi GPU setups holding any real world advantage (gaming at ungodly resolutions and benchmark scores aside) but of the two crossfire had always seemed to have been touted as more widely compatible and more stable than SLI. This is partly what drove me towards trying it out as my first foray into this strange world of dual graphics setups, thinking I'd be having a great laugh.

This isn't intended as a review or a dig at ATI, just my experiences. If you have any info which might help me tweak this setup so it actually seems to be doing anything that can be shown through real world performance it would be greatly appreciated, as right now I'm up for selling both 4870s and heading back to the green team once their new cards are out.

tl;dr

Crossfire was a massive let down.
 
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Isn't 1900x1200 quite high res for 512meg graphics cards? Surely Crossfire or not they will have trouble fitting that level of textures in their memory and performance will suffer.

I'd have thought 1Gb cards would be more useful to you?

When I bought the 1st card I was gaming at 1440x900. I realise that the vram is low for this resolution but in deciding between £100 for the second card (along with the allure of something new, ie crossifre) and £220 for a 1GB version of the card I already had, the cheaper option won out.
 
Edit: Out of interest did you try running the benchmarks at lower res which would suit the 512Mb VRAM better? I personally wouldn't have thought to run a 512Mb card at anything over 1680x1050 but I'm no expert.

Yeh, This was one of the first things I tried, but sadly the increase from crossfire becomes even less the lower I set the resolution.

It's not just the performance that I feel let down by, it's the other issues such as graphical errors, stuttering etc.

Ironically the one game which saw a huge FPS increase (STALKER: clear sky) now refuses to run with crossfire enabled.
 
As it stands now I'm thinking of selling the 2 cards (they're going for about £150 on a popular auction site) and putting the money towards either a GTX280/285 or a 4870x2 sometime early next year.

I'd love to hear from anyone who is using the x2 now so I could figure out if they still suffer from the issues I outlined in the original post.

I've also realised that this thread is rather inflammatory so I'm sorry for that. I don't intend to start an ATI/nVidia fight.
 
tbh the 4870x2 is simply crossfired 4870 on one card. If it doesn't help you now, it won't help you then unless it's Vram your issue needs. I'm not sure it is though as you've run at lower res's.

I'd go for a GTX285 in your position or a 55nm GTX260-216 in the new year. I'm personally going for the latter in the new year and have a similar spec to you, just a lower res 22" monitor.

The 55nm GTX revisions are the cards that are really calling out to me, maybe a 280 if their prices drop in line with the release of the 285/295.
 
I'm going to try a complete re-install at some point in the next few days (something mindless to do during the inevitable boxing day hangover/slump perhaps?) and see if this helps. I'm hoping it's a driver conflict or maybe even, god forbid, and error on my behalf when I was setting them up.
 
Does anyone have links to a good guide for setting up crossfire?

A few minutes googling and checking on the ATI site just lead me to guides for the 1xxx series which were crossfired using some weird looking dual connector DVI cable thingy.

Do I just install one card with 8.12 as usual then add the second card and bridge so CCC autodetects, then tick enable crossfire?
 
Do you guys have both crossfire connectors connected or just the one?

My sapphire card didnt come with one (I have been in touch with sapphire to get hold of one) so I only have a single bridge. I'm clutching at straws here as surely if running tri crossfire then only on bridge would be connected then too.
 
Does anyone esle have the fan control issues? I can only seem to control the fan speed of whichever card is in the top slot, the bottom card seems to be stuck at what sounds like 50% no matter what I do.

Oh and currently re-installing vista now, fingers crossed.
 
You have to drop down the little tab dont you and set the other card up?

Cheers for that, I think it must have been a botched install/driver conflict as that didn't show up until just now after doing a full system reinstall.

I have to say that initial impressions with this fresh install are very positive.

I've only re-installed far cry 2 so far as it was a game that caused a lot of issues and I'm amazed by how much better it is running. All maxed out settings 4x AA, and fraps is reading that I'm nearly always at the 60fps cap dropping to about 57 during hectic scenes (oh no!).

Off to do last minute Xmas shopping now then to try more games tonight.
 
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