CRYSIS - The end of an era?

jenksieboy · 12 Mar 2009 at 11:57

Do you think that Crysis was the last PC game of it's kind? One that pushed the boundaries of graphical prowess and that created a 'justifiable' need for an upgrade of a pc Graphics card? Is the future of high end PC gaming in Crisis?

My view = sadly, Yes.

paradigm · 12 Mar 2009 at 11:58

No, why would it be? :confused:

What an odd, and unfounded viewpoint. Care to explain how you came to that deluded conclusion?

alex24 · 12 Mar 2009 at 11:59

In light of the recent annoucement of the cryengine 3, I find this hard to believe.

snowdog · 12 Mar 2009 at 12:03

alexhull24 said:
In light of the recent annoucement of the cryengine 3, I find this hard to believe.

Cryengine 3 will be nothing if they continue to design it for the 360 and ps3... Inferior GPU's like the 7900GT and 1800XT will bring us nowhere.

Antar Bolaeisk · 12 Mar 2009 at 12:03

I highly doubt it, it's just another landmark along the way.

Tom84 · 12 Mar 2009 at 12:05

jenksieboy said:
Do you think that Crysis was the last PC game of it's kind? One that pushed the boundaries of graphical prowess and that created a 'justifiable' need for an upgrade of a pc Graphics card? Is the future of high end PC gaming in Crisis?

My view = sadly, Yes.

And what exactly are you basing that on? :confused:

BioShock 2 is out later this year (hopefully) and that alone is enough to make me upgrade my rig to the latest hardware

Dup · 12 Mar 2009 at 12:06

I thought Crysis was an excuse to release a short unoptimised game which forces you to watch Intel and Nvidia branding at the begining to push you towards upgrading to the latest hardware, despite even that not being able to run the game at a steady frame rate.

Developing and releasing a game that can't cope with the latest hardware and monitor resolutions at the time of release is a bit poor tbh, and I didn't find it to be THAT visially impressive for the power it commanded either, but that's another opinion entirely.

Davepen · 12 Mar 2009 at 12:08

But the recent announcement of Cryengine 3 they have stated that the engine is moving onto consoles aswell.

But I do not think, with companies like Valve and ID, that PC gaming will never die off and will always be at the pinnicle of graphical development.

alex24 · 12 Mar 2009 at 12:10

snowdog said:
Cryengine 3 will be nothing if they continue to design it for the 360 and ps3... Inferior GPU's like the 7900GT and 1800XT will bring us nowhere.

Who says they're not making it readily scaleable and compatible across the platforms? That would save the developers some time and make it a very attractive engine to use. I can't see it not being an improvement, graphically speaking, on the cryengine 2's capabilities, why bother making it for PC then, they'd lose sales on that?

craptakular · 12 Mar 2009 at 12:10

I didn't think Crysis was that sweet looking either, there is not much difference between Crysis and COD4 IMO. Just look at how much better cod4 runs.

Yes, Crysis is supposed to be "open world" but its not really, its just really wide corridor shooter, i.e. only one path to follow.

Hope it makes sense

Margaret · 12 Mar 2009 at 12:11

Crytek aren't the only developer out there, the last thing PC gaming needs is whiny developers who can't face the fact their game sucked so they start using piracy as an excuse for the sales.

Oxy said:
I didn't think Crysis was that sweet looking either, there is not much difference between Crysis and COD4 IMO. Just look at how much better cod4 runs.

Call of Duty looks crap most of the time, the textures are pretty bad.

Crysis is in another league.

uv · 12 Mar 2009 at 12:13

jenksieboy said:
Do you think that Crysis was the last PC game of it's kind?(

There've been games pushing boundaries since the release of Crysis.

Both Mirror's Edge and Cryostasis have pushed boundaries - not only in graphics, but in physics and innovation. I honestly feel that PC gaming has never been so alive - there's a million different, new games out for you to try, you just need to look further than the latest EA blockbusters.

snowdog · 12 Mar 2009 at 12:15

Oxy said:
I didn't think Crysis was that sweet looking either, there is not much difference between Crysis and COD4 IMO.

Yes there is, a massive difference, CoD4 looks complete crap in some maps, eg. Chinatown has terrible low res textures, the game has rather poor post processing, very poor physics and explosions, very poor looking water ( first/intro level).

Just look at how much better cod4 runs.

And that has anything to do with the difference between the 2 ?

Mirror's Edge and Cryostasis have pushed boundaries - not only in graphics, but in physics and innovation.

Haven't played Cryo but pics don't really look good.

Mirrors edge push boundaries? All it has is nice glowing surfaces and the odd cloth shearing and hair physics in your own shadow... Nothing boundary pushing, the exterior of the game looks quite average. The people actually look terrible in it.

you just need to look further than the latest EA blockbusters.

I have been ignoring EA tbh, ME was a pleasant surprise. But a million different new games ????

psychas · 12 Mar 2009 at 12:18

doom 4 , RAGE , are around the corner. Cryostasis already out pushes your pc to the limits

Kanifee · 12 Mar 2009 at 12:20

I take it you have not seen video's of the upcoming Alan wake Game, stunning backdrops and massive landscapes that will definatly push the limits of your computer. Crysis was made for its own sake, Its a shining example of how its possible to over glamourise a game at the expense of other elements.

Far cry was an impressive game that was ahead of the hardware available at the time, crysis on the other hand was designed to emulate what farcry had and sufferd for it. There will be plenty of demanding titles in the future that will make you part with your hard earned but over dramatising the state of pc gaming isnt going to do anything but show an ill informed opinion.

You would think people would be used to this cool off time after christmas by now but they still love to get themselfs in a flap with "PC gaming is dead"

snowdog · 12 Mar 2009 at 12:23

Alan Wake, they announced that it's coming when dx10 was just out...
Still no sign of it, and knowing Microsoft, there won't be for a long time, they like their 360 now and forgot where their roots are...

Bring back Ensemble Studio's !

craptakular · 12 Mar 2009 at 12:24

snowdog said:
Yes there is, a massive difference, CoD4 looks complete crap in some maps, eg. Chinatown, has terrible low res textures, rather poor post processing, very poor physics and explosions, very poor looking water ( first/intro level).

I think the SP game looked ace.

And that has anything to do with the difference between the 2 ?

Well of course it does, whats the point in playing a game on full settings, massive res when you get 10fps? Thats not enjoyable is it. COD4 at the time had the balance between sound quality, visual quality and performance.

snowdog · 12 Mar 2009 at 12:28

Oxy said:
I think the SP game looked ace.

Well of course it does, whats the point in playing a game on full settings, massive res when you get 10fps? Thats not enjoyable is it. COD4 at the time had the balance between sound quality, visual quality and performance.

No because crysis still looks many times better on settings that give you 40 fps... CoD4 does not look ace, some maps look very good in the SP I admit, but some also look like a quake 3 engined game... What's the deal with people wanting to run everything maxed ?

Uriel · 12 Mar 2009 at 12:28

I've just been looking at Empire: total war CPU benchmarks. My rig is going to cry.

jenksieboy · 12 Mar 2009 at 12:47

Tom84 said:
BioShock 2 is out later this year (hopefully) and that alone is enough to make me upgrade my rig to the latest hardware

Very much doubt you will need to mate. This will be first and foremost a console game, as this is where the majority of the revenue will come from, thus though the graphics should be better on pc (providing decent translation) there will be nothing groundbreaking, I wouldn't have thought. Kind of my point i guess.