Cyclist plague spreading

Yaayuh! · 13 Sep 2013 at 09:53

One idiot hits the back of another idiot's car?

That is indeed all i care about attributing to this thread.

Pestilence · 13 Sep 2013 at 09:55

[FnG]magnolia;24935473 said:
Have we talked about road tax and insurance yet or is that still to come?

Insurance got a mention. Haven't seen tax yet, but staying optimistic.

arknor · 13 Sep 2013 at 09:59

If I see someone waiting to pull out I start pedalling faster so they know I'm going fast.

most motorists seem to think if you aren't pedalling away you must be coasting along fairly slow :S

SexyGreyFox · 13 Sep 2013 at 10:02

arknor said:
If I see someone waiting to pull out I start pedalling faster so they know I'm going fast.

most motorists seem to think if you aren't pedalling away you must be coasting along fairly slow :S

After 1 year I've found it's exactly the opposite here in Stoke, they still have to beat you.

SexyGreyFox · 13 Sep 2013 at 10:06

Oh and in a coincidence sort of way I cycle over the Stoke City's Britannia Stadium grounds twice a day and often see the players mingling around, I'll have to look out for Nzonzi and his car.

leaskovski · 13 Sep 2013 at 10:08

This thread makes me want to cry.

[DOD]Asprilla · 13 Sep 2013 at 10:09

Castiel said:
I would slow down and anticipate your actions by maintaining a stopping distance and suitable speed between me and the vehicle in front, including while it is overtaking, the driver, if trying to force an accident, would have to actually hit me rather than I hit him. As the Highway Code you quote says, slow down if necessary to allow the vehicle to pass. I am aware of the fact that the car overtaking may well suddenly stop or cut me up, so I take appropriate measures to avoid such.

Your point of view appears to be based on the massive assumption that the driver pulled in an stopped having passed the cyclists and given enough stopping room.

A lot of car / cyclist accidents are caused by left hooks (both of mine have been) where the driver passes the bicycle until they are out of their peripheral vision and then turns or pulls left without realising the the cyclist is actually still next to them.

Also, for any given speed a bicycle has a great stopping distance than a car so immediately pulling in and braking is going to lead to an accident that the cyclist is unlikely to be able to afford.

Oh, and on your previous comments on insurance for cycling you appear to be confusing third party liability insurance with content insurance. I'm insured for damages I may cause though an accident that turns out to be my fault though my home and contents insurance, my membership of British Cycling and my bank account. By far and away most cyclists are insured.

Given that 1 in 10 cars on the road are allegedly uninsured I think we can reasonably assume that around the same percentage of cyclists are insured as car drivers.

Nexus · 13 Sep 2013 at 10:15

Pestilence said:
Insurance got a mention. Haven't seen tax yet, but staying optimistic.

[FnG]magnolia;24935473 said:
Have we talked about road tax and insurance yet or is that still to come?

Arguably in this case, given the driver is foreign and driving a foreign registered car, the Cyclist would be well within his rights to tell him to get off the road because he doesn't pay 'road tax'!

estebanrey · 13 Sep 2013 at 10:20

'The driver failed to stop at the scene and we are making efforts to identify, trace and speak to him,' a spokesman for Greater Manchester Police said.

Despite a picture clearly showing N'Zonzi stopped at the scene :rolleyes:

McBain · 13 Sep 2013 at 10:21

Mild concussion. lol.

Nexus · 13 Sep 2013 at 10:26

estebanrey said:
Despite a picture clearly showing N'Zonzi stopped at the scene

He failed to give up his insurance details or any other information, he even joked he couldn't be traced because he was foreign. While that might not fit the description, thats still leaving the scene of an accident and not stopping properly.

MickeyFinns · 13 Sep 2013 at 10:32

estebanrey said:
Despite a picture clearly showing N'Zonzi stopped at the scene

Read point 2,3 & 4;

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/170

4T5 · 13 Sep 2013 at 10:34

Strange he didn't see him as it's a foreign plated car I'd expect it to be a left hander putting the driver on the cyclists/path side.
Jail the car driver for 25 years I reckon & release a few murderers & rapists to make room for him & any other car driver.

scorza · 13 Sep 2013 at 10:36

LOL try having a commute home on part of the London 2012 Olympic cycle race route. Every night there's a different group of cyclists timing themselves on it. Wouldn't be so bad but there's a perfectly good cycle lane on both sides of the dual carriageway, but they prefer to form a pelaton in lane one instead :mad:

platypus · 13 Sep 2013 at 10:38

Dimple said:
This is the first time I've posted this but Castiel you are talking crap.

I couldn't agree more.

I don't doubt the cyclist could have done more to slow down whilst being overtaken and cut up, but to say it's not the drivers fault? They are both to blame, but the driver more so in the case for overtaking and immediately braking.

Jono8 · 13 Sep 2013 at 10:38

I am looking forward to road closures for car events and car races. I might take part in those. It would only be fair due to the amount of stupid road closures for cycle races that we get around these parts....

estebanrey · 13 Sep 2013 at 10:40

MickeyFinns said:
Read point 2,3 & 4;

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/170

Read point 1, 15 & 16

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/stop

platypus · 13 Sep 2013 at 10:41

Jono8 said:
I am looking forward to road closures for car events and car races. I might take part in those. It would only be fair due to the amount of stupid road closures for cycle races that we get around these parts....

Stupid post is, surprisingly, stupid.

4T5 · 13 Sep 2013 at 10:43

I think a lot of the cause of this kind of thing is down to 2 reasons.

1. Cyclists thinking they have right of passage because they are Eco friendly saving the planet bla bla bla

2. Motorists thinking they have right of passage because they have paid there insurance/Tax/MOT.

In reality it's Motor cyclists that have right of passage as we wear leather look sexy & smell nice.

Yaayuh! · 13 Sep 2013 at 10:44

4T5 said:
In reality it's Motor cyclists that have right of passage as we wear leather look sexy & smell nice.

Seconded!

You sir, talk sense!

What do you know, i do mare about this thread after all.