Cyclists

[AndyOcUK]

I Wish cyclists would make their mind up whether they are a vehicle or pedestrian. BLOODY SICK of them jumping off kerbs in front of me, riding side by side, cutting corners at T junctions (i.e coming round on wrong side of the road) and using pelican crossings................. and they're the first ones whining and pointing the finger when they get flattened. (Don't panic.....not ran one over yet....but the idea is becoming more and more appealing every day.)

If i drove my car this recklessly, I'd be banned or worse.

Last summer, a bloke came around a bend on the wrong side of the road and ploughed is arse straight through my windscreen (I saw his head come screaming down the road above the fence line and I had stopped anticipating the olympic class pillock that was approaching).....£75 down the toilet via my insurance for a new one and a day off work waiting for autoglass. Why the hell I should be out of pocket is beyond me. Had a letter from the police stating that he had had a warning. If that was me in my car, I'd have been done for driving without due care and attention.

Seriously brasses me off!

No insurance, no road tax contribution, no MOT......motor vehicles applying to any one of these criteria = DEEP excrement.

 

[AndyOcUK]

Riding side by side is allowed, and there's no such thing as road tax.

Otherwise, carry on. I'm a cyclist and most cyclists are nobs.

No such thing as road tax? If u mean at all, then you can't be from this planet

If you mean for cyclists....then thats Exactly my point

 

[AndyOcUK]

I think he means vehicle tax, but his point stands.

Yes, most cyclits are nobs. However so are most car drivers from what I see day in day out.

I'd agree with that, car drivers are also insufferable plebs sometimes....but (with the exception of the SCUM that is the uninsured driver) if a motor vehicle driver causes an accident, there are measures in place (insurance etc) to allocate blame/ responsibility and the financial penalty/ recompense that goes with it.

Cyclists just sod off and end of story

 

[AndyOcUK]

In this thread we're being pedantic. There isn't such a thing as a 'small claims court'.

...actually that's PEDantic

(couldn't resist....I'm married to an english teacher )

 

[AndyOcUK]

For £75? I wouldn't be bothering Judge Judy with that.

Exactly - not fair! should have followed him home and beaten my £75 back out of him

Aye but if it's a narrow/busy road then cyclists should be in single file. And on bends too.

....and preferrably on the correct side of the road with their arse on their saddle as opposed to on my dashboard!

 

[AndyOcUK]

There is no such thing as Road tax. You're mixing it up with vehicle excise duty.

This car doesnt pay any either, shall we ban that from the roads too?

The bicycle is deemed as a vehicle that is not required to pay any VED, just like that focus.

I think its pretty fair to say that road tax the lesser issue here? If it bothers you that much, lets remove it from the equation totally and we're left with no insurance/ MOT. In other words a cyclist has no road going litigatory obligations in place to compensate victims of their recklesness for damage to cars etc even when its their fault?

Hi andyocuk

I hereby promise to pay you directly, the equivalent ved based on the current emissions of my bicycle. Mail in trust and I'll grab your bank details.

Cheers,

Robbie G.

Sigh.

Hysterical....well done!

Do I bill you against the hot gas coming out of your face or your......

 

[AndyOcUK]

Be a dear and dont ever bleat about cyclists paying "Road Tax" again and we'll forget it ever happened

lol

done

 

[AndyOcUK]

Chip repair?

ROFL Nice 1

 

[AndyOcUK]

Lets put bicycles through the EuroNCAP tests as well while we're at it.

Face/Palm

hysterical...please leave thread if you've nothing to contribute.

Let's put cyclists through the EuroNCAP tests too!

40mph into a wall! Boosh!

Lol

Think about this........a cyclist riding like a weapon, creams into the side of your nice, new car and puts a scratch down it thats going to cost £400 to put right. Pretty sure most of you would be livid. How would you be recompensed for that?

 

[AndyOcUK]

Andyocuk - what about people that run on the road? Tax? Insurance? I'm guessing you're not the type to excercise, but would be interested to hear anyway. People on foot damage cars too.

Not the type to excercise? How did you arrive at that conclusion? Ran for staffordshire T&F and XC, played county hockey and badminton, taught OE for 7 years, Have my mountain leader qualification, my Padi divers, 5* Level 4 Kayak instructor, ropes course director and have done two seasons whitewater raft guiding in the french alps. Hope thats interesting enough for you.

"People on foot damage cars too".....?? People on foot are NOT road users...I thought that to be painfully obvious!

Go play somewhere else if all you're going to do is fire competely unfounded insults matey.

 

[AndyOcUK]

Why a day off work to wait for Autoglass?

They can fix your windscreen anywhere I thought?

At the time, I had my 9 month old daughter in the car.....whole lot of stuff to sort out. The windscreen was totalled and car undrivable as the glass was completely crazed over. I called the police and did the breath test and the lad on the bike went to hosopital via ambulance. (Just cuts and bruises) Couldn't believe the breath test....8:30am with a baby in the car.... By the time I got the nipper and the car to my mother & father's in Stoke, called Autoglass etc, it was 11am. I work in telford so hardly worth the trip.

 

[AndyOcUK]

Good branch telford and stoke, used to work for em

Yeah, the Stoke branch were pretty quick.....the windscreen was all done by 3pm. Just wasn't worth the drive back to telford for half a day or less by the time I'd sorted thr daughter, the car, autoglass and the police

 

[AndyOcUK]

Oh look, it's the weekly 'I hate cyclists' thread.

I hated the one that put my 9 month old daughter at risk, yes!

and thats exactly what he looked like when the ambulance men were pulling lumps of my windscreen out of his ass

 

[AndyOcUK]

To be fair, I didn't read the OP and just wanted to use that image

Haha at his face looking like that

lol

either that or he's been tied to a chair and forced to watch justin beiber videos on a loop

 

[AndyOcUK]

As a cyclist (and car driver and biker) I can agree that some do ride like idiots, and I won't condone pavement jumping or going through red lights. It's fair to say though that some drivers are incredibly impatient and get themselves into a right old state if they are delayed 10 seconds by a cyclist. It's also amusing (when not dangerous) how cars feel they must overtake a cyclist no matter what speed they are doing. I get overtaken constantly in 20 and 30mph zones when doing over that on my bike, only for the cars to then slow down with me having to brake to avoid going into them.

Also another point about riding side by side. I go out on a club run twice a week. There will be between 10 and 20 of us. Now, we could string out down a country lane about 50 meters, but as the roads are often too narrow to fit a bike and 2 cars, you'll actually be waiting a fair bit longer than if we're in a compact 2 bike wide formation, ie 5 bikes in length rather than 10. Obviously if the roads are too narrow for 2 bikes and 1 car we will single out.

Some fair and sensible points there mate.

I am not one of those impatient drivers

And I do unnderstand your side by side in a bunch theory. My mate rides club and there are times when its safer and easier for everyone. I'm referring to the two old sods in high vis kit on their way to work smoking and chatting, oblivious completely to their surroundings. Nice ZX12 BTW

^This. Also cars cutting T-junctions is as much of a problem as cyclists doing it round here. There's a lot of awful lot of incompentant drivers as well as cyclists.

The lack of MOT equivalent and insurance is arguably a fair point as some of the bikes I see around campus don't even have functioning brakes

Totally agree. My point is, if that car hits you....blame can be allocated by the police/ insurance companies. Cyclists seem to be exempt.

 

[AndyOcUK]

Idiot drivers far outweigh idiot cyclists. I was knocked off my bike by a driver who failed to look left as he sped through a roundabout, his passenger then sprinted 100 yards up the road before running back down and claiming to have witnessed the whole event.

The Police turned up and he claimed that the driver had been toodling along at 30mph, minding his own business when I aggressively overtook him on my bike and then slammed on my brakes right in front of his van and was thereby knocked from my bike. Just a shame that three pedestrians had also witnessed the event and relayed the true story to the Police. Cyclist passes through roundabout, driver approaches at speed and turns left, straight into the cyclist (me).

I observe red lights, I never ride on the pavement and I always observe the rules of the road. OP, jog on.

Jog on? You been watching the football factory too much

did you read this whole thread mate? Not denying there are idiot motorists, just than when its a cyclists fault, they rarely compensate (or have to compensate) the motorists for damage to motor vehicles. There are idiots everywhere mate....this is about responsibility and liability for our actions.

 

[AndyOcUK]

"People on foot are NOT road users"...are you sure? What's painfully obvious is that you aren't the sharpest tool in the box. I already mentioned people running on the road in my previous post? Why should they not be 'taxed' and require insurance for this heinous activity?

The funny thing is that the demographic of society more prepared to hop on a bike, are those more likely to be more wealthy and therefore contribute more in the way of income taxes, national insurance, and also to have more expensive cars sitting in their garage for the weekends than the plebians that think cycling is for losers. We have two cars actually, but I still cycle and leave the bike in the garage as I enjoy it.

Therefore wrong uns like the OP should be thanking cyclists for being upstanding members of society, that pay more for his daughter's NHS treatment than he probably does. More cyclists on the road makes your daughter's world a safer place to be, as for each cyclist there's one less car likely to cause a serious metal vs. metal accident.

Read this
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/aug/10/cycling-boom-survey

How dare you.....you don't even know me you stuck up biggoted arse!

You're calling me thick, a wrong un and a pleb, and skint?

• ...guy comes along and thinks he's clever in summarising the thread, yet brings nothing new to the discussion nor offers up any opinions at all....

At least he's not being down right rude thrwoing insults at, and making ridiculous assumptions, about people he has never even met!

 

[AndyOcUK]

Seems we both indulge in that...



So if you could address the actual points raised?

No interest whatsoever in pursuing any topic of converation with you mate. You haven't raised any points to question, other than my income, tax bill, daughters NHS usage, my intelligence, athleticism etc, etc. ALL topics you stated as fact without ever have even met me and NONE of which are either on topic, or indeed, any of your business.

Please leave.