I have a D40, as long as 6mp is enough for you its a great little camera, compact, comfortable and sturdy. I pretty much use the manual mode all the time but the auto settings are fairly capable too. I've also got some old "Chinon Pro-990C" flash gun from the 80's to play round with (was my dads) and it actually works rather well! (Post some pictures up soon)
D60 any good?
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wow! I wouldn't have thought a better camera would perform better lol
Its just when people say "poor iso performance" its a bit annoying, as they make it sound like it'll be worse than my Kodat Z710 I got atm!
Its quite a bit of money to spend, to then find its rubbish.
I suppose it would be more useful if people were comparing the D60 to its rival cameras in the same price range e.g. cannon 1000D?, not the D90 which is 3 times the price, and the D40 which is a cheaper camera (nearly half price now?), or the D300 lol
wow! I wouldn't have thought a better camera would perform better lol
Its just when people say "poor iso performance" its a bit annoying, as they make it sound like it'll be worse than my Kodat Z710 I got atm!
Its quite a bit of money to spend, to then find its rubbish.
I suppose it would be more useful if people were comparing the D60 to its rival cameras in the same price range e.g. cannon 1000D?, not the D90 which is 3 times the price, and the D40 which is a cheaper camera (nearly half price now?), or the D300 lol
Sorry if my comparison to the D90 has freaked you out, but my point was that the D40 can potentially give you better results depending on your usage (though there's not much between D40 and D60), and save you some money in the meantime. The first SLR is a learning experience, and if you take to it in a serious way then as long as the first body was good enough not to deter you and provided some decent photos whilst you learn how to make a more informed decision on your first serious body then it's done its job.
edit: to be clear, I'm assuming you're as much of a tech-junkie as myself and most of the other members of this forum. Any camera is capable of creating incredible photos...but whilst tech is only part of the equation it's the easiest part to obsess over.
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well, I will be heading out shortly to see if the local shop has both of these.
Glad someone else asked as I've been looking myself
Although, I could get enough money together for a 450D so I am going to play with that as well as I know its better than both
Glad someone else asked as I've been looking myself
Although, I could get enough money together for a 450D so I am going to play with that as well as I know its better than both
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i got that exact kit in january, form probably the same highstreet/online big store, but it was a lot cheaper then, around 330, with a further 20£ cash back
so far im liking the d60, havent had as much time to use it as i'd like though
so far im liking the d60, havent had as much time to use it as i'd like though
well, I've just back and after having hassle with my credit card (bloody HSBC) I've finally purchased a....
D60!
I spent a good hour in there speaking to the lad behind the counter, who despite being young really did know what he was talking about
I had a play with the D40, D60, 1000D as well as the D90 & 450D.
After having a good play with them all I decided the D60 felt better in my hands than the other 2 budget ones and I preferred the feel of the D90 as well. This should do me for a couple of years until I am ready to move on.
Just come to my mates house to have a play as I can't wait until I get home.
Going to be taking it everywhere with me and taking as many shots as possible. All I need to do now is learn to use it, must also buy an adapter for it so I can connect it to my telescope!
D60!
I spent a good hour in there speaking to the lad behind the counter, who despite being young really did know what he was talking about
I had a play with the D40, D60, 1000D as well as the D90 & 450D.
After having a good play with them all I decided the D60 felt better in my hands than the other 2 budget ones and I preferred the feel of the D90 as well. This should do me for a couple of years until I am ready to move on.
Just come to my mates house to have a play as I can't wait until I get home.
Going to be taking it everywhere with me and taking as many shots as possible. All I need to do now is learn to use it, must also buy an adapter for it so I can connect it to my telescope!
D60 is worse than the D40 at high iso!, utter ****, it has a grainier image because it applies less smoothing, but you can turn the noise reduction up. sure it's worse than my own D300 at 3 times the cost or the D90 at twice the price....derr.
Just go on to DP review and compare the high iso images of both those cameras, you'll see there's little difference except the D60 has a load more detail.
Made a good choice there Mr Harvey
Just go on to DP review and compare the high iso images of both those cameras, you'll see there's little difference except the D60 has a load more detail.
Made a good choice there Mr Harvey
The D60 is a fine camera. The Differences betwen the D40 and D60 are small, but whatever, the camera body is about 1/5th of the total system cost so the money difference is minimal.
A decent tripod cost more thean the D40 and D60 put together! And that exlcudes the RR BH-55 ball head
A decent tripod cost more thean the D40 and D60 put together! And that exlcudes the RR BH-55 ball head
What you're really saying is you can't tell the difference. Fair enough...but remove/apply equivalent signal processing and the d40 is marginally better at high ISOs. Noise reduction in general kills data and dpreview give you JPEGs, which are processed differently to NEFs. It's hardly important, but an informed decision is usually preferable on the buyer's part. This is minutiae though.
As for the price argument, care to wager your D300's performance against the D90's? From what I'm reading only the D3 and D700 perform better...hence my reason for (perhaps inadvisedly) dropping its name into this thread...it's the best value-for-money option in the next tier up.
Anyway, enjoy your D60 AHarvey, I enjoy mine
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OP no way trying to plug my website, but all of these were taken using a D60. V.please with mine even the night shots
www.leemgilbertphotography.110mb.com
But yeah you get what you pay for as the D90 demonstrates.
www.leemgilbertphotography.110mb.com
But yeah you get what you pay for as the D90 demonstrates.
They all probably give better high ISO performance than my D200 lol
D200 does have superb low ISO though, better than those fancy pants D300s and D700s
Enjoy your D60, and congratulations on not buying a Canon, being on the darkside will give you years of feeling smug on the inside
D200 does have superb low ISO though, better than those fancy pants D300s and D700s
Enjoy your D60, and congratulations on not buying a Canon, being on the darkside will give you years of feeling smug on the inside
No wager, DPreview already did that comparison (read the final comments of their D90 review) as did practical photography, though the fact is I suspect it's easier for most people to get a better image out of the D90 than it is the D300 and it has slightly more print friendly processing.
You won't find too many D300 owners kicking themselves they didn't save a few quid and wait for the 90, I assure you the extra money buys you a whole lot more than just image quality too in terms of AF points and speed, weather proofing, 100% viewfinding etc. I know what I'd rather be shooting MotoGP in the rain with.
The D60 has better iso 800/1600 performance than the D40 whether shot in Jpeg or Raw at any processing level, my old D40 was and is shocking at iso 800 as was my D80, but the D40X and D60 have made decent inroads into the processing algorithms in both file types (and yes RAW is processed) and are both usable at iso 800 with the D60 having a very decent stab at iso 1600 too (especially in B&W with a little extra contrast).
Nope, I still maintain that the VR lensed, 10mp, real time D-lighting, anti dusted D60 kit is well worth the extra £90 over the bum basic D40 kit and the OP will love his D60 to bits.
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I agree with most of what you said, and the only point RE: D90 > D300 was noise at equal ISO (with price also in mind), the exact same argument I was making for the D40/D60. There're forums that go into far greater specifics than this forum, so if you're into people taking their cameras ridiculously seriously you should join nikonians (I'll see you there!).
edit: bclaff of nikonians has done a study on this btw, which is my primary source as it's a very well thought-out study. However, I'm not about to reproduce his work here as it's a pay-forum.
edit2: dxomark.com concurs. Check it out
edit: bclaff of nikonians has done a study on this btw, which is my primary source as it's a very well thought-out study. However, I'm not about to reproduce his work here as it's a pay-forum.
edit2: dxomark.com concurs. Check it out
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