Damn, got a NIP

Hades · 1 Nov 2011 at 12:36

Well after 24 years of driving with a completely clean license and genuinely trying to abide by speed limits I suppose it had to happen at some time... just got a NIP for travelling 39 in a 30.

Annoyingly I genuinelycan't remember whether my wife or I was driving at the time but as I'm the registered keeper I'll have to put myself down.

Damn it.

Yes I know, speed kills, etc. I'm a bit cheesed off as I usually stick to the limit and guessing by the alleged speed of 39 I assume my wife/me would have thought it was a 40

Damn it again.

What are my chances of a speed awareness course?

Hades · 1 Nov 2011 at 12:38

mattyg said:
First things first.

Whats the date of the offence and did you receive the NIP on or within the 14 day limit

Unfortunately yes... 25th Oct.

I'm not trying to squirm out of it. Just a bit disappointed as we both drive so carefully and it just feels like yet another way to hammer the hard working, law abiding, citizen

Hades · 1 Nov 2011 at 12:44

I think we might be lucky. Just found the Surrey safety camera site:

http://www.surrey-safecam.org/fe/default.asp?n1=76

Low end speeders are those who are detected speeding within the ACPO defined range of the speed limit +10%+2mph up to the speed limit +10%+6mph.

I make that 39... and allegedly we were doing 39.

EDIT: Thanks for the links and info above. Much appreciated.

Hades · 1 Nov 2011 at 12:49

Steve2000 said:
Ooh just in. £95 though, I paid £70 last year.

Bugger. That's more than the fine

Probably worth it though.

So annoyed. It was a genuine mistake by one of us. Oh well, take it on the chin etc. The annoying thing is we were driving to hospital for a checkup on whether I needed further treatment after my tumor was removed. It never rains but it pours eh?

Hades · 1 Nov 2011 at 12:51

Maccy said:
Did it not include an image??

Not yet. It's just a request for me to tell them who was driving. I thought the image was from the rear anyway? And even if it did show my wife then it seems a bit of a crap thing to do, for me to drop her in it. It certainly would have been one of us.

Hades · 1 Nov 2011 at 12:54

Skeeter said:
Except you broke the law

Not denying that (here we go on OcUK Motors...) My point was it was a genuine mistake as we literally drive everywhere on the speed limit. I'm not trying to get out of it. I'll take it on the chin. In fact I'll take it on the chin even though I can't be sure who was driving.

Hades · 1 Nov 2011 at 12:56

Skeeter said:
Thats fair enough, but there not 'hammering a law abiding citizen', they are penalising someone who broke the law, weather it was accidental or not.

Ok mate whatever.

Hades · 1 Nov 2011 at 13:19

loltim said:
You have to request a photo.

I'm all a bit new to this (being a law abiding citizen and all

. But there doesn't appear to be anywhere to tick to request the photo. What it does have is a poorly photocopied Surrey Safety Camera Partnership sheet which states:

Q. Can I see the photographic evidence?

A. If you wish to challenge the allegation in the Magistrates court the photographs will form part of the Police evidence and in such cases the defendant will be provided with copies

So that makes it seem like I can only see the photo if I go to court :confused:

Hades · 1 Nov 2011 at 13:37

mattyg said:
At the moment they are only asking who was driving at the the time of the offence. Its a "notice of intending prosecution"

They'll prob send you another letter saying ok now you've admitted driving do you plead guilty or not guilty. If you plead guilty they MAY offer a SAC if you contest then they will provide a picture

PMKeates said:
If you ask most will provide. In the past I've politely asked for a photo and received one.

Thanks.

Hades · 3 Nov 2011 at 00:17

Mr Jack said:
Why on earth would you do that? You tell them you don't know who was driving and ask to see the photos so you can try and figure it out. If you can't, neither can they and you walk away due to lack of evidence.

It's a fair point but because of the little matter of a large fine and even more points if I don't advise them who it was. But you make a valid point which I will consider, thanks.