Dark Souls REMASTERED

davewhite04 · 7 Jul 2018 at 14:49

Plainsong said:
Capra Demon. Messed me up a few times when I first played it. He's optional but worth taking out. I love that area with the hollow thieves and their throwing knives and their cursed dogs.

He's not optional, he drops the key for the Depths/Blightown.

Plainsong · 7 Jul 2018 at 14:55

Ah ok I thought gaping dragon drops the blighttown key. It's been a while since I played it.

kinger8938 · 7 Jul 2018 at 18:12

davewhite04 said:
He's not optional, he drops the key for the Depths/Blightown.

I think it's optional if you take the back door (master key) route into blight town?

davewhite04 · 10 Jul 2018 at 12:01

Plainsong said:
Ah ok I thought gaping dragon drops the blighttown key. It's been a while since I played it.

The Gaping Dragon is the Depths boss, so key off Capra Demon is needed to get into the Depths, where Blightdown is and can be entered after the Gaping Dragon boss fight.

davewhite04 · 10 Jul 2018 at 12:02

kinger8938 said:
I think it's optional if you take the back door (master key) route into blight town?

No, you need the Depths key.

kinger8938 · 10 Jul 2018 at 12:15

davewhite04 said:
No, you need the Depths key.

You can skip the depths altogether with the method mentioned, pretty sure. I went the proper way this time but in old runs I swear I never bothered with the depths

*had me double checking, thought I was mad. From the wiki

It is possible to skip the fight against the Capra Demon by going through Valley of the Drakes and taking the shortcut to Blighttown. This can be done by going through the locked door at the start of New Londo Ruins (requires Master Key), or by going to Darkroot Basin and taking the elevator to the Valley.

Either way for a first time playthrough, the depths is the way to go. I enjoyed revisiting that area.

VincentHanna · 11 Jul 2018 at 00:19

I've finished Anor Londo now - Jesus wept that bloody knight sniper on the balcony killed me about 15 times.

This game is huge.

kinger8938 · 11 Jul 2018 at 00:40

VincentHanna said:
I've finished Anor Londo now - Jesus wept that bloody knight sniper on the balcony killed me about 15 times.

This game is huge.

Probably about half way at the end of Anor Londo I would say, or just shy of.

davewhite04 · 11 Jul 2018 at 10:45

kinger8938 said:
You can skip the depths altogether with the method mentioned, pretty sure. I went the proper way this time but in old runs I swear I never bothered with the depths

*had me double checking, thought I was mad. From the wiki

It is possible to skip the fight against the Capra Demon by going through Valley of the Drakes and taking the shortcut to Blighttown. This can be done by going through the locked door at the start of New Londo Ruins (requires Master Key), or by going to Darkroot Basin and taking the elevator to the Valley.

Either way for a first time playthrough, the depths is the way to go. I enjoyed revisiting that area.

True, but I assumed the guy was talking about getting into the depths and that someone said the master key can be used to access them. I don't know why someone would not take out the capra demon and access one of the best areas/boss in the game, and miss out most of Blightown. Imagine the loot you'd miss, you could access all of Blightown from that entry point but I just would not do it or recommend it. Still, yes you can bypass the depths therefore the capra demon to advance. Would you do that though?

davewhite04 · 11 Jul 2018 at 10:49

VincentHanna said:
I've finished Anor Londo now - Jesus wept that bloody knight sniper on the balcony killed me about 15 times.

This game is huge.

Very annoying section

If you return to your cell at the asylum you should be able to get the peculiar doll, which can be used to enter the painted world if you don't know. Some nice pyromancy spells there

davewhite04 · 11 Jul 2018 at 10:53

kinger8938 said:
Probably about half way at the end of Anor Londo I would say, or just shy of.

My favourite area, beautiful views. Tomb of the Giants is awesome too, if you get the maggot light helmet from Lost Izalith it's much easier. I can't believe the whole game and the DLC is just over 7gb! Stunning remaster imo.

VincentHanna · 11 Jul 2018 at 11:05

There's so little story communicated to the player, that I didn't realise a knight I had saved from a cell in the Cathedral (near the first bell) ended up killing the Firekeeper at Firelink Shrine.

Anyway, a black orb was vibrating near the bosses in Anor Londo, so I used it and 'invaded' the knight and managed to kill him on the second occasion. He dropped a fire keeper soul and I didn't think anything of it so upgraded my Estus flask at the nearby NPC in Anor Londo.

Turns out that was the girls soul and I could have bought her back to life! Whoops.

I also killed Solaire of Astora early in the game and it looks like he would have been available to help with lots of boss fights, so I've effectively made the game even harder.

kinger8938 · 11 Jul 2018 at 11:08

davewhite04 said:
True, but I assumed the guy was talking about getting into the depths and that someone said the master key can be used to access them. I don't know why someone would not take out the capra demon and access one of the best areas/boss in the game, and miss out most of Blightown. Imagine the loot you'd miss, you could access all of Blightown from that entry point but I just would not do it or recommend it. Still, yes you can bypass the depths therefore the capra demon to advance. Would you do that though?

As I say I wouldn't recommend skipping It, especially a first time through for the same reasons you mention

but for NG+ or trophy hunting in later playthroughs, the option speeds the game up a bit

kinger8938 · 11 Jul 2018 at 11:10

VincentHanna said:
There's so little story communicated to the player, that I didn't realise a knight I had saved from a cell in the Cathedral (near the first bell) ended up killing the Firekeeper at Firelink Shrine.

Anyway, a black orb was vibrating near the bosses in Anor Londo, so I used it and 'invaded' the knight and managed to kill him on the second occasion. He dropped a fire keeper soul and I didn't think anything of it so upgraded my Estus flask at the nearby NPC in Anor Londo.

Turns out that was the girls soul and I could have bought her back to life! Whoops.

I also killed Solaire of Astora early in the game and it looks like he would have been available to help with lots of boss fights, so I've effectively made the game even harder.

Well done for invading him and taking him out though, such a vague story line there and easily missable.

VincentHanna · 11 Jul 2018 at 11:15

I'm reading up on areas after I've done them, so as not to spoil them. I did go through that painting by the way, quite early in the level and I wish I hadn't as it took me a long time and many deaths to get through it...I didn't have many arrows or any humanity but I managed to find enough in the level to at least kindle the fire so I had 10 Estus flasks instead of 5.

Not sure where all this lore about NPC's and areas comes from though. I'm not really getting it from the game...are later Dark Souls games all linked?

davewhite04 · 11 Jul 2018 at 11:57

kinger8938 said:
As I say I wouldn't recommend skipping It, especially a first time through for the same reasons you mention but for NG+ or trophy hunting in later playthroughs, the option speeds the game up a bit

You going to do NG+ ? I just can't motivate my self to play a different game!

kinger8938 · 11 Jul 2018 at 13:54

davewhite04 said:
You going to do NG+ ? I just can't motivate my self to play a different game!

I intended on going for the 100% but I have since sort of drifted away from the game for now! Will continue soon I hope

kmax86 · 12 Jul 2018 at 08:25

Bought the game after playing it before on PC

Going for an STR build this time and managed to get a black knight halberd. I must say it is very OP at early stages. Capra Demon just melted in 3-4 hits whereas before I had to cheese him throwing dung pods

kinger8938 · 12 Jul 2018 at 09:33

kmax86 said:
Bought the game after playing it before on PC

Going for an STR build this time and managed to get a black knight halberd. I must say it is very OP at early stages. Capra Demon just melted in 3-4 hits whereas before I had to cheese him throwing dung pods

I really wanted that weapon but didn't drop for me, will farm one towards the end game

kmax86 · 12 Jul 2018 at 09:37

I was not expecting it to drop too as I initially wanted the black knight sword or greatsword but neither dropped from the knights in parish/undead burg.

Currently on medium roll with some elite/eastern armor. Hard to get used to as fast roll is very useful.