Dateline NBC: To Catch A Predator

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I know the men who do it are wrong but when they are chatting online to a 13 year old. The '13 year old' is an actual decoy (18+).

So when the predator talks dirty with the decoy and send indecent images of themselves, it is actually an adult to receives them.

So how can they be charged with sending images with a 13yo with intent to have sex....?
 
I believe they just humiliate them, although sometimes they get the police involved too I think.

Anyway, maybe they can't be charged with "sending indecent images to a 13 year old", but that clearly was their intent, and they deserve what they get IMO, regardless of what they are charged for.
 
Please sit down.

Most of them drop a brick when Hansen appears so they know they are up to something, you could call it entrapment.
 
support_bae said:
I know the men who do it are wrong but when they are chatting online to a 13 year old. The '13 year old' is an actual decoy (18+).

So when the predator talks dirty with the decoy and send indecent images of themselves, it is actually an adult to receives them.

So how can they be charged with sending images with a 13yo with intent to have sex....?
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Because they intend to, it's a bit dodgy but it just works in America (I think), they thought they were sending the pics to a kid and as such it's just as bad. They also seem to get them to directly say they'd like to have sex with them.

jp_bl_68 said:
Are they charged or just publicly humiliated?
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Both, they all seem to get taken away in cop cars afterwards.
 
support_bae said:
So how can they be charged with sending images with a 13yo with intent to have sex....?
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Is this in America? I don't know so much about the legal system there but the intention is clearly there irrespective of the realities of the situation i.e. although the decoy isn't actually 13 the person they are chatting to has the clear intent to have sex with them underage. Entrapment isn't something that is generally approved of in the UK at least but what you're asking for otherwise is to have actual 13 years acting as police officers and putting themselves at risk with from a variety of undesirable material and people.
 
cheets64 said:
Please sit down.

Most of them drop a brick when Hansen appears so they know they are up to something, you could call it entrapment.
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Doesn't entrapment only stop the police from laying traps for otherwise entirely law abiding people who may do something opportunistically? as opposed to actual criminals with intent who go seeking to break the law whether it be a trap or not.

But:
"when a TV show makes you feel sorry for potential child-rapists, you know it's doing something wrong". - Charlie Brooker
 
Spektor said:
Doesn't entrapment only stop the police from laying traps for otherwise entirely law abiding people who may do something opportunistically? as opposed to actual criminals with intent who go seeking to break the law whether it be a trap or not.
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I always thought this too.
 
shauncr91 said:
Because they intend to, it's a bit dodgy but it just works in America (I think),
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It also works here.
There was a 2 parter on ITV a few months ago where they arrested paedo's for sending photo's to intended kids and arresting them when they turned up for a meeting with intended kids.
 
support_bae said:
So how can they be charged with sending images with a 13yo with intent to have sex....?
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This brought back a distant memory of a TV documentary I saw part of -

To catch the new breed of paedophile, you see, has required a new form of policing and Scotland Yard's Paedophile Unit has led the world with its pro-active approach.

Since 2005, it's been using officers posing as young girls in internet chatrooms and on social networking sites to draw these paedophiles out into the open.

The idea is not to entrap them (which would be against the law), but simply to communicate with them long enough for them to break the law, either by engaging in sexual grooming, sending indecent images to a minor or by encouraging them to commit an indecent act.

Often, it is the investigation which follows the suspect's arrest on one of these charges that unearths evidence of even more serious crimes.
Such is the burden of proof that Paedophile Unit investigators are able to assemble that, more often than not, the defendants plead guilty.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...lass-married-And-police-struggling-cope-.html
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Sorry about linking to the Daily Mail ... ;)

So the UK police seem to be doing similar things, though to be honest I would feel more comfortable if many of these people were dealt with by teams specialising in behavoural problems rather than the police.
 
Didn't one guy turn up at the house, get sent down for awhile, then after his release he turned up again... lol.

I found that show hilarious though, just the see the looks on their faces as they realised their life has just been flushed down the toilet. Teachers, doctors... it had em all...
 
Let's hope the Police don't have a quiet week and realise they aren't going to meet their Paedophile target for the month, and start doing spam emails to random people, trying to elicit Paedo-like behaviour.

But in the cases like on the TV show, it just would take a Paedo with some brain cells to realise what was happening and start playing them like a Nigerian scammer :eek:
 
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