David Attenborough - A Life on our Planet (Netflix)

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Couldn't see a thread already for this, unless I missed it when searching :confused:

Watched it twice over yesterday. Absolutely brilliant.

My thoughts at the end were more doom and gloom than optimism.

Funnily enough, watching him on 60 minutes he said about half way through when replying about world governments: "That's what will sink us in the end".
 
LiE said:
I really enjoyed it. I went vegan in July this year for ethical reasons, but the environmental issues were also a driving factor. I'd like my son to grow up into a world that isn't completely ****ed.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...d-plant-based-diet-humans-study-a8378631.html
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Unfortunately, the more research I do on this subject, the more I am convinced mankind is a lost cause. The planet and nature, will eventually rebuild. Humanity won't.

That actually gives me some comfort.
 
I had a tape by the WWF narrated by DA that I often listened to at primary school in the 70's and he was warning about the deforestation and consequences for bio diversity back then, and 40 years later here we are looking at the fast approaching precipice.

Hell, it's only a few years ago we still had very vocal climate change deniers deriding any warnings and we still have some as world leaders. I have no faith whatsoever that the world will come together to work towards the bigger picture in any meaningfully timely or significant way.

I do wonder with positive feedback loops if we've gone beyond the point of no return anyway.
 
TheOracle said:
mankind is a lost cause
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We are like locus on the planet, taking and taking with little regard for the damage we do. Animal agriculture is a prime example, "Livestock provide just 18% of calories but take up 83% of farmland: avoiding meat and dairy is ‘single biggest way’ to reduce your impact on Earth"
 
LiE said:
We are like locus on the planet, taking and taking with little regard for the damage we do. Animal agriculture is a prime example, "Livestock provide just 18% of calories but take up 83% of farmland: avoiding meat and dairy is ‘single biggest way’ to reduce your impact on Earth"
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Two months ago (during lockdown) my town opened a new McDonalds. We'll, not really a new one, it moved from one building to another. That day, I had to walk through the high street for some reason.
I kid you not, there was literally a 60m+ queue outside the door. It looked like one of those boxing day sales, or a new iphone launch.

The sad thing though, is that paticular day had an event where the local farms set up food stalls all along the high street. They were right outside the McDonalds. I wish I'd have taken a photo of it.

Humans are all for today, to hell with tomorrow. Government, banks, businesses...

To sum it up. Do you think Netflix will let other broadcasters show this for free? for the good of the planet? No.....it's all about money.
 
Saving this to watch once we are in the house but I've heard good things.

Let's be honest, Attenborough with Netflix money was never going to be bad.
 
Junglist said:
Saving this to watch once we are in the house but I've heard good things.

Let's be honest, Attenborough with Netflix money was never going to be bad.
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It's brilliant. I admit that I did have a tear in my eye, and a lump in my throat a couple of times. Especially around the half-way point.
 
kinetic747 said:
You could tell he doesn't have much optimism that we can turn things round, very sad. :(
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You know I've been thinking about this quite a lot since I watched it. I used to think it was down to world governments and the top CEOs to save us.

The reality is, the people who can actually save this planet are the 7 billion oridinary people.

40% of food produce is wasted. That needs to be stopped. If everyone cut down on meat, to maybe once or twice a week, the farmers would be forced to scale back. Shops won't buy things they can't sell. Palm oil...it's everywhere...but if we cut down, and tried to replace it with palm free alternatives, the manufacturers would change ingredients. The politicians and ceos aren't going to do ****, but the consumers who are actually spending their money have more power than they think.

Cadburys use palm oil. It's fair trade, or sustainable, but palm oil is palm oil. They don't use it in the USA though. Now, you can lobby the CEO to stop using it....or, people can stop buyng it. I guarantee the second their profits start to decline, they'll stop using it.

What governments can do, is to educate everyone...but they aren't, which is a crime.

It's like the fable of the scorpion on the river. We are humans, it's in our nature.
 
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I watched this earlier this week, it’s an incredible watch, albeit also quite a sad one.

The fact he’s still doing this in his 90s goes to show how much he deeply cares about it, and also shows what a true gent he is.

I hope we can turn it around, or at least slow it down greatly otherwise there really isn’t many more generations of humankind left by the sounds of it.
 
TheOracle said:
You know I've been thinking about this quite a lot since I watched it. I used to think it was down to world governments and the top CEOs to save us.

The reality is, the people who can actually save this planet are the 7 billion oridinary people.

40% of food produce is wasted. That needs to be stopped. If everyone cut down on meat, to maybe once or twice a week, the farmers would be forced to scale back. Shops won't buy things they can't sell. Palm oil...it's everywhere...but if we cut down, and tried to replace it with palm free alternatives, the manufacturers would change ingredients. The politicians and ceos aren't going to do ****, but the consumers who are actually spending their money have more power than they think.

Cadburys use palm oil. It's fair trade, or sustainable, but palm oil is palm oil. They don't use it in the USA though. Now, you can lobby the CEO to stop using it....or, people can stop buyng it. I guarantee the second their profits start to decline, they'll stop using it.

What governments can do, is to educate everyone...but they aren't, which is a crime.

It's like the fable of the scorpion on the river. We are humans, it's in our nature.
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It's the pace of change that's scary and not enough effort to reverse the tide. :(
 
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