Daytona 675 - Reliablility, etc

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Looking at getting back on two wheels and love the look of the Daytona 675. But my head says "Dont buy british!". I am worried about reliability, build, etc.

Thinking of an '07 year R6 or CBR600RR instead. Previous bike was a 2008 ZX6r which was good fun, but had no grunt low down so thinking the R6 would be a bit useless on the road too.

Anyone have any comments about the 675? Or tips for a 2007 era sports bike? Only interested in sports style and the 2007 age is the newest for my price range it seems (live in New Zealand these days!)
 
Why not go for a 1000cc if you're worried about lack of grunt?. Perhaps even a GSXR 750?

My insurance isn't particularly more expensive in the UK for a 1000cc over a 600cc. the running costs shouldn't be any more different apart from a little more fuel, maybe a bit more tax?.

Need more NZ info! :D
 
NZ is all spread out and so its really about whats in your area that can be supported!! Its like the old wild west lol.

Used to ride with Fireskull and co from here when I lived back in Blighty and he was a triple fan. I've been round town today and had a look about at what is supported locally, what is online, etc and the two bikes that have come out of it are Daytona 675 and R6 (2008 models).

I have been looking at reviews and the R6 seems a lot more suited to the track rather than roads (no low or mid). But the Daytona doesn't have a slipper clutch which is odd for a new bike in my opinion! Not sure how much of a difference it makes as my ZX6R had one but my Suzuki Bandit didn't and I didn't notice anything.

The guys in town have parts for the Daytona so its really down to the 675 vs R6 argument now. An R1 costs a lot more :( I reckon the CBR 600RR is the best of the bunch but they are like rocking horse poo and I rarely see them.
 
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I've just moved from a CBR600F to a 675 (albeit a Street Triple).
I'd imagine my old IL4 was tuned less for top-end BHP than a newer 600, but the 675 engine is a revelation. For me, the 600 was all about building up to, waiting for, loads of craziness right at the top end. The triple engine is just effortless "go" in comparison. While a 600 is winding up to something epic, the 675 has delivered, and you're gone :)
 
Sounds like me with the GF! She wants to build up to something epic, but I have already delivered and I'm gone (to get a sandwich) haha.

How do you find the comfort of the 675 on the road?
 
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The comfort is fantastic, but I fancied a change from the sports position and aching wrists etc. it's still very much set up for fast riding, you sit "poised", just comfortable.
One thing I like - going fast feels like an achievement! There's no effort with a fairing, you just get in the tuck. On this thing, I feel like some crazy man, beating the laws of nature and physics.
 
Oddly I actually test-rode the two bikes you mentioned, 2008 R6 and Daytona 675's back to back in 2008. Firstly for what it's worth I bought the Daytona, and now have a Street Triple R (started racing and don't see the point of a sports bike as a pure road bike, at least when the street is around :D)

Anyway, onto the bikes, the R6 was damn good but it was the engine that was the 'problem', when pushing on and revving it properly it was epic, better than the Daytona imo, but when not pushing it felt a bit 'meh'.

The Daytona however, it would still rev but never really with that huge powerband coming in right at the end like on the R6, but at the lower rev's it was just far superior. So slightly worse top end 'feel' from the engine (think the overall power/speed is very similar?) but as a day-to-day bike it's a whole different league imo.

As for the slipper clutch, it depends both how crazy you ride and how much you care about the rear locking up a bit on downshifts. The R6 was the first bike I rode with a slipper clutch and it was odd when really pushing it into the corners it was just smooth, the daytona on the other hand will lock up the rears under heavy braking/downshifting if you a bit of an idiot, I personally have no problem with that, even kinda enjoy it, so I didn't see it as a selling point...

And finally I guess to mention the Street again, the Daytona is a great bike, but for me the Street has 95% of the Daytona's cornering ability (if not a bit more, is a bit odd with the seating position) but for the majority of the time when you're not pushing very hard it's again a much better bike, more comfy, better visibility etc. It does lack straight line speed though, technically it's less than 20mph difference, but it feels like the acceleration is tailing off much sooner, but then do you really need to do those kind of speeds (comfortably into the triple digits)
 
I have an 07 Daytona 675 :)

The engine will be perfect for you - seriously, having gone 06 Ninja 636 > 08 Yamaha R1 > 07 GSXR 750 > 07 Daytona 675, the 675 is easily the most enjoyable an usable engine; granted I didn't really have the 750 for long though - but of that and the 675 the Daytona has more character.

Can't really comment about reliability, I've only put about 3-4 K on mine since I got it, and bar a dead battery - caused by not having it trickle charged, it's been perfect - though it's due the big service in 1000 or so miles; so I'm hoping shims etc will be ok.

The bike is perfect though, unlike all my past bikes it really needs no modifications, out of the box it is complete, and the odd bits I have added are for comfort really (levers, screens stomp grips etc). It's light and flickable, though I have lost a little bit of this feeling from changing to Bridgestone S20s - but it simply feels more stable and planted than flighty now (Pirelli Corsas before).

It's comfortable imo, considering how you're tipped forward by the high rear; I've happily ridden over 400 spirited miles in one day, and it's pretty decent on fuel - I'd imagine you'd see nearly 150 miles to a whole tank.

Only gripe is that there is zero storage - nowt, nothing, zip! And I quite like being able to stash keys and a wallet in the bike, rather than in my leathers :(

Oh, and it's quite nice having something a little different - having had i4s previously :D
 
Cheers guys. The riding here will be very different to the UK. No motorways so mainly A roads which are windy and hilly everywhere due to the terrain (volcanic). Best thing is no cars though :D Go 5 mins outside town and you can drive for an hour and only see a handful of people. Unfortunately a lot of police patrols compared to the UK and all the cars have radar so I will have to ride more carefully as you get nabbed instantly if you go round a corner and a copper is coming the other way (front and rear radar!).

So the bike will be mainly used for sub 100mph as no motorways and on windy roads up and down hills. The local bike route is an hours ride which goes right around the volcano so no real straight roads (but would be good to have the speed in case it erupts half way round haha although just a few earthquakes the last few months so should be safe.
 
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Oh and Scort, what are the mileage stamps for the servicing for a 675? I am viewing one tomorrow so will check if the servicing is up to date. Has done 12,000KM so would be interesting to know if its now due a service or whether he has had the next milestone already done.
 
Just got your Facebook message mate :)

I loved riding the 675, and have ridden both the older model and the 2011 one, don't worry about them feeling gutless, they don't, they just keep on revving :D, they will feel much more gutsy than your old 6R, comfort wise I was not really a fan, but that's because I am a lanky git, I am sure it will be perfect for your short arse ;)

One thing I will say is though when I was looking at getting one a few years ago now a lot of the racers I know said don't get the grey engine ones(Not sure what year that was though, up to 08?), plenty have had them fail on track, and I think so did one of the bike Mag's when they did an extensive test on them too, now could be totally fine but just something to bear in mind...
I would go for a later model as possible too because they have the sexier brakes ;)
 
Sexy brakes? Thats a new one! The model I am checking out is a 2008 model. I believe they changed stuff in 2009? Did you ever try an R6 after the 675? The 6R was indeed gutless down low and I have read that the 08 R6 is even more so! Is that right? What about this stuff about the 675 running out of revs too soon? Not that I ride hard anyway lol
 
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More than likely.. most of those year IL4's were very similar, I didn't mate, though my mate tested the R6 first and then he went on to buy the 2008 ZX6R like yours so go figure. :)
I would stretch to the 2009 model if you can? cant be that much of a price gap surely? Though NZ prices...
 
The 2008 I am looking at tmrw (I want a black one) is 5K GBP as it well priced (no pound symbol on my keyboard!). A 2009 one starts about 7k GBP. Is 2009 worth the 2K difference? My 2008 ZX6R was 5K brand new from the dealer in the UK when I bought it so it makes me cry, but my mates here call it "nice beach tax" haha.
 
Not really worth it on lower end bikes like this one. I have heard of people shipping over Ducatis in left over cargo space as they go for a nice price! Generally cars, bikes and electronics cost a lot. Hard finding low mileage stuff :(
 
Business opportunity here, I'll source low mileage examples to fill a container and have it sent over for you to distribute locally. :p
 
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Oh and Scort, what are the mileage stamps for the servicing for a 675? I am viewing one tomorrow so will check if the servicing is up to date. Has done 12,000KM so would be interesting to know if its now due a service or whether he has had the next milestone already done.
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500 miles/1 month
6000 miles/1 year
12000 miles/2 years
18000 miles/3 years
24000 miles/4 years
30000 miles/5 years

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Thanks for the help all. I checked out the 675 and the guy had made some weird mods to it (moving number plate right under the bike which appears to be rubbing on the tyre so he has bent the plate out of shape, fitting indicators which flash too quick so they would need a resistor adding and who knows what else!). I popped into the local dealer who look after Triumph and they were clueless as to what parts would be needed to get it back to stock and seemed disinterested and un-knowledgeable - not what I normally see at bike shops!

Popped into the official Yamaha dealer we have here and tried out a 2010 R6 and going to go with that instead. Bike is very nice and dealer is professional, parts are everywhere and they seemed like they wanted to help. Going for the 2008 model (budget costs and was told 2008-10 are basically the same) so it's just a case of waiting for one to come up for the right price (its winter so no rush!). I preferred the Triumph but the support system just isn't there and the stories of faulty engines on pre-2009 models has put me off in case I do hit a problem as the service from the local dealer isn't good from what I have experienced and also heard (I have zero luck with mechanical items!).

Overall the R6 is just a "safer" bet.
 
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Shame the local dealer seems useless, I've found the dealer I bought from (in both branches) to be really helpful.

Still, not like the R6 is a bad bike :p
 
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