ddr2 6400 to 8500?

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Hi all

Just wondering if this is a worthy upgrade:

I have a maximus formula mobo, e8500 overclocked, with 4x1gb corsair dominator 6400 ram, tried loads of different things, I cant get it any higher than 4ghz

Is it worth upgrading to 2x2gb corsair dominator 8500? Do you think i can get a little higher o/c?, is it worth the £100?

thanks for your thoughts
 
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i went form 4x 1gb 6400 to 4x 1gb Crucial Ballistix 8500 and i haven't noticed much different if even.. as for o/c i don't know about the corsair dominator 8500 but the Crucial Ballistix o/c to about 1200mhz..
 
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Waste of money. Just run your pc6400 at 8500 speeds anyway.

I'm assuming you are running at 9.5 x 421 or even 9 x 444 for 4Ghz?

Either way by putting the timings on your pc6400 ram to the timings for pc8500 ram you will be fine running the ram at 842 or 888 1:1

Take my corsair pc6400 ram. It's very happy at 1066 at 5-5-5-12 and I haven't even tried to find the best timings/max speed it can run at yet but that is already a fsb of 533 at 1:1 which is more than you need.

I am intrigued as to what makes you think your memory is holding back your cpu overclock anyway? By setting super slack timings and 1:1 for your memory (5-5-5-18 or even 6-6-6-18) you are removing the memory from finding your maximum overclock anyway if you are trying to overclock properly and not just making stabs in the dark ;)
 
425x9.5, 1:1, cant remember timings, recommended i think

assumed it was ram really, i am bit of a noob when it comes to overclocking i admit, I shall try slacker timings etc when i get time

thanks for the help chaps
 
425x9.5, 1:1, cant remember timings, recommended i think

assumed it was ram really, i am bit of a noob when it comes to overclocking i admit, I shall try slacker timings etc when i get time

thanks for the help chaps

Just read to sticky guide in the overclocking section for some guidance.

You might have to up other things apart from vcore voltage to get a better overclock. Don't forget that above 1.4v is not recommended for your cpu if you want it to live long (a lot of people reckon it's a myth but do you want to prove them wrong?)

Also bear in mind that not every 8500 cpu can do 4.5Ghz or even over 4Ghz. Every chip is different and 4Ghz might be the max of your cpu.

Once you have found the max overclock for your cpu and made sure it is stable (8 hours of prime95 to be sure) you can then look at dropping the ram timings back down as they might be stable at the speed you are then running at.

Patience is the key and overclocking properly and successfully takes time (in fact a lot of time if you follow the following:

1. Set memory to 1:1 ratio and slack timings and fsb and vcore to default.
2. Increase fsb by either 5 or 10 Mhz (10Mhz to begin with, 5Mhz when you get higher)
3. Boot up and run prime95 for 15 mins
4. If stable go back to 2.
5. If not stable, increase vcore by one notch and try item 3 again

Keep notes as you go along including fsb, voltage settings, coretemps etc, it will help later especially if heat becomes an issue. Once you find you can't increase the speed, no matter what increase in vcore you use, go back to your last stable setting and run prime95 for 8 hours to ensure that it really is stable. If it isn't drop the fsb by 3-5Mhz and try again as you might have been right on the limit.

The bonus with keeping notes as you go is that you might find you max overclock is not something you want to use 24/7. Take my Q6600. I can get it stable at over 3.8Ghz but it runs in the low 70's and that is just too toasty for 24/7 living. I have now settled on 3.5Ghz for day to day as temps stay in low 60's and the difference in voltages between 3.5Ghz and 3.8Ghz is massive.

If I want to post a 3dmark or crysis benchmark I can quickly use my 3.8Ghz settings and then go back to my 3.5Ghz settings for day to day use.

There are of course other things you can tweak but the above is enough for a start.

Of course following the above if you started at your default processor speed the above process would take you a 3-5 hours just to get to 4Ghz and that assumes it never falls over and you have to increase the vcore.

I reckon if you do it properly the whole process (ignoring final 8 hour test) will take you about 8 hours to find your best overclock at the least voltages.

There are no quick ways of doing it tbh. Yeah, everybody can buy a q6600 and change nothing in bios execpt the fsb to 333 and get a 3Ghz chip but to go further it takes time.

Good luck, hope that helps. Glad I saved you wasting £100 on memory though.
 
thanks very much for all that info, will try and have a go at it at the weekend

yep, have read about the degradation issue, wont go over 1.4v

tbh, 4ghz was the easiest o/c ever, i just upped the fsb, mobo increased the vcore automatically (1.35 i think) and boom, perfectly stable

will experiment to see if 4ghz is the max, might be being greedy!

thanks for your time and saving me money :)
 
thanks very much for all that info, will try and have a go at it at the weekend

yep, have read about the degradation issue, wont go over 1.4v

tbh, 4ghz was the easiest o/c ever, i just upped the fsb, mobo increased the vcore automatically (1.35 i think) and boom, perfectly stable

will experiment to see if 4ghz is the max, might be being greedy!

thanks for your time and saving me money :)

Yeah there are some very easy overclocks nowadays :) When going further though, best to set the voltages manual for vcore,nb etc. Start off with what they are defaulting to for that speed and work from there.
 
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