DDR4 Buying Advice - Practical Benefits of Paying More

yes not a lot in it really. If you get the crucial 2133 and have a play with timings you will be surprised at what it can do and save yourself a lot money at the same time.
 
i still think its too early to get ddr4, the timings are still very high, and also the cost.
if you have to buy now as your have a system and need the ram to run it then get what ever is cheap, in 12 months time all the stuff that out now will be worthless or a hell of a lot cheaper as the better stuff with better timings will be out
 
Bit frustrating what to do really. This coupled with the X99-E WS being sold out everywhere is making me think if it's worth bothering. I need to get a new system soon as I need if for work. Some parts failed in my current PC so I running on 4GB and an IDE drive. No point replacing the motherboard for a Q6600, might as well just fully upgrade.

Guessing it's better to get the cheap Crucial stuff and wait for better stuff to come in a year or so?
 
P4Clock said:
i still think its too early to get ddr4, the timings are still very high, and also the cost.
if you have to buy now as your have a system and need the ram to run it then get what ever is cheap, in 12 months time all the stuff that out now will be worthless or a hell of a lot cheaper as the better stuff with better timings will be out
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Absolute rubbish, take a look at my screen below, mine cost me £230 gskill 2666 kit, now show me some DDR3 that comes close to that performance for the same price, good luck!

Cpuz is showing correct speed of 3098mhz

 
For gaming i agree but the same can be said for many components, it totally depends on the users requirements and on what they perceive as acceptable performance for the price that they paid.
 
lol 1.67 DRAM voltage, you're nuts :D

+1 to nonsense comment above regarding timings. If you're going by XMP timings rated on the box then the same could be said about DDR3 kits too. Especially considering the people who say such things normally run lax 2133 on T2, and say things like "well you can get DDR3 3000 anyway".
 
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Nickolp1974 said:
Absolute rubbish, take a look at my screen below, mine cost me £230 gskill 2666 kit, now show me some DDR3 that comes close to that performance for the same price, good luck!

Cpuz is showing correct speed of 3098mhz

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so you dont think it will get any better, what is out now that's it?
your the one talking rubbish to make your self feel better, right now there is no gain from having ddr4(For the normal user).
By the time there is a real need to get DDR4 there will be much better performing kits out. and the ram that out now will be budget.

When ddr3 came out 1333/1600 was the shiz, now you would not look at it twice. there is a long way to go yet, i am not saying your system is not fast and nice but in 12 months there will be faster and nicer thats how tech works and if you dont need it now than wait and get the better stuff when it's time to upgrade.
 
Of course there will be better kits to come, if your talking on a "need" basis, DDDR3 will be fine for many more years and like i said earlier it is totally dependant on the users needs.

You said earlier that the cost was too high and yes it is like every other component but compared to older tech, ddr3 i personally think its fine, in fact for the performance you get its probably cheaper at current prices.
It appears to me that your looking at this from a totally gamers point of view and your absolutely correct, couldn't agree more and unless game creators up there 'game' there will be no point in upgrading for quite a time, unless of course the coding is crap!
 
I asked Team Au last night about DDR4 RAM

I basically said if you had £250'ish to spend on a kit would you,

• Buy the Kingston 3000MHz kit

• Buy a cheaper kit such as the Geil etc and overclock it knowing it was binned well enough to do so.

Their answer was to go for a Gskill 2666MHz kit (not the Geil) and overclock that.
 
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My original question was less about merits of ddr4 over ddr3..and more about ddr4@3000mhz compared to ddr4@2133...
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But what is your use, you cant just say ddr3 vs ddr4 because both have there good points and both would be a absolute must buy depending on your needs.

for games its a 50/50 split, for normal use 50/50, for ram heavy use ddr4 all the way but other than that right now and for some time to come drr3 is all you need
 
stulid said:
I asked Team Au last night about DDR4 RAM

I basically said if you had £250'ish to spend on a kit would you,

• Buy the Kingston 3000MHz kit

• Buy a cheaper kit such as the Geil etc and overclock it knowing it was binned well enough to do so.

Their answer was to go for a Gskill 2666MHz kit (not the Geil) and overclock that.
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I'd take that advise. There is a lot of hard binning going on and I can't really do an awful lot with my Dom Plat 2800 kit. A lot of people having far more luck with the LPX kits.

They go down quite well though if you excuse my French.

Currently at C14-16-16-34-CR1 @ 1.3v 2750 and going further down.
 
Theres not really any bad kits out there in general, even my 2400mhz rated kingston ddr4 is managing 3000mhz at 15-16-16-35-2T 1.35V, tbh buying the 2133mhz or 2400mhz is the best value at the moment
 
I think people just see C15 and think the worst. I'm down to C13-16-16-34-T1 2750 with 1.35v

Now, how many people run anything close to that on X79 for daily use with as little as 1.35v?


Rhetorical question obviously, as the current answer is probably 1 or 2 in the world if you're lucky :p
 
I wonder what % of slower memory can be clocked higher.
I would start a thread for people to report on their memory overclock like there is for cpu overclock...
ie
ram productid, cpu, motherboard, voltages, timings, synthetic benchmarks, practical benchmark(s),
...but with no one saying there is a practical benefit to faster ddr4 memory...its currently pointless.

it would be interesting to understand whether the different products from a manufacturer are actually different....or just binned/tested for higher speeds..and with a functional or pointless 'heat spreader'.
 
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