Deadlifting

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Having just read the powerlifting thread it has got me thinking about my deadlifting.
I don't know any science behind why we do things a certain way, the gym I train at no longer has anyone running it but they guy who used to run it was an ex bodybuilder and had much advice to give people, some I agreed with some I didn't

My deadlifting is always with straps and always overhand grip, I always wear a belt as well.

The chap I mentioned that used to run the gym saw me doing mixed grip one day and told me not to as it put the body in an imbalance due to having muscles turned in different directions etc. also suggested that without using straps you wouldn't reach your body's potential as your deadlift being such a heavy weight will always be higher than your grip strength.


I think now is the time to question this and get some other opinions on this matter.

To put my strength into perspective
I squat 4 sets 5 x 140/150
I bench 4 sets 5 x 105/110
I DL 4 sets 5 x 140

I have dropped my weights and am currently doing 4 x 8 rep sets, but the last few times I DL 5 reps I went for 160 on the last set and managed 2/3 reps each time.


I always thought that my DL seemed (proportionally) low compared to my other exercises.


What are your thoughts on
overhand vs mixed grip
straps vs no straps
the (comparative) weight I am DL
Belt vs no belt
 
It mightbe worth mentioning then.
When I was younger I went everywhere on my bike, spent all my money on it, came home from shcool and went out on my bike etc etc.

This in my opinion has given me strong legs from the get go.

When I first started in the gym I was doing sets
10
8
4
6

When I first started my squat was at 4 x 100 and I would say within 6 weeks I was doing 140.

Whereas the guy who ran the gym (and initially where ALL my training advise came from) said he didn't like telling people how to deadlift as it was the one exercise he wasn't comfortable giving advise on, I had only asked him about it perhaps 6 months or so after starting in the gym, I also got a lower back injury at one point and stopped DL for about 4 months.

I think that is probably the reason for my squat being higher, what is a normal ratio for these 2 movements ?
 
Morba said:
which part of your upper leg, that means a lot to different people. I remember one person asking me why i go so low (I was hitting parallel). He was hitting parallel too, though it was his hamstring that was parallel... which is high :p

JDee - thinking about it, if you are always using mixed grip then surely this would strengthen the muscles involved? If you had some form of tear or did something like bend your elbow too much then i can understand why it would go.
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Yeh hamstring parallel.
Right given that info I shall drop 20kg off the bar and try for lower.

I would like you try and explain why I should go lower, better ROM is not a good answer :p
what happens muscle wise by going that bit lower ?
 
fluffmct said:
Having shown a lot of people how to squat, I'd recommend dropping at least 60kg and trying it.
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Well I did my squats last night and managed to do the exact same as I did last week rep wise but minus 20kg, I wasn't going much lower than normal so I wasn't far out before, I definitely felt the difference though.

I did shoot a video (my first ever I might add) if anyone is interested.

Doing deads tomorrow so will try and get a vid of that as well if I can.
 
fluffmct said:
Good job. Most people really need to drop the weight the first time they do full ROM squats after doing 1/2s or 1/4s for a long time. You might have a natural strength that helped you there (or you're still kidding yourself on depth :P :D )
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To be fair as I said I was going almost as low before, I felt that I just had to drop that little bit lower, felt a little strange but I am sure I will get used to it.

I can tell the difference today with muscle ache as well :)
 
I will try and remember to get a vid up, I have decided to take a week off next week though to try and help a shoulder injury get better.
So will post back here week after next (if I remember)
 
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