Hi Guys, I have been debating this for a while, I am going to go for the 16:9 AOC AGON AG271QG or the AOC AG352UCG Superwide, But these super wides seem very expensive are they worth it compared to 16:9 monitors? I have a rubbish BenQ XL2420t 144hz currently the colours are trash, Are these monitors better colour wise etc?
Debating which monitor to get, 16:9 or Superwide
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I would say a 40" 4k. I dithered over this for ages and ended up with a samsung 4k tv which is working out really well ans cost just over £400 so a bargain as well.
It has just more width than a 35" 21:9 and a lot more height. Love it.
It has just more width than a 35" 21:9 and a lot more height. Love it.
I own the AOC AGON AG271QG and it's great for gaming. The 35inch superwide one you mention was what I had ordered originally but I got scared of spending £720 and wimped out.
Colours should be better on the 27 inch as it's IPS. You probably can't go wrong with either to be honest. Just comes down to how much you wanna spend and how important superwide is.
(I do kinda wish I had superwide one but I only paid £330 for my 27 inch as it was a return)
Colours should be better on the 27 inch as it's IPS. You probably can't go wrong with either to be honest. Just comes down to how much you wanna spend and how important superwide is.
(I do kinda wish I had superwide one but I only paid £330 for my 27 inch as it was a return)
Ah, the ratio debate. I myself have just been suffering through similar thoughts.
I was set for 27 inch 1440p, but given the price of them I decided I wanted something more exciting, in the end I went with a 2nd hand 34inch curved Ultrawide 1440p for under £400, so a similar price to a 27 inch new.
Whether or not it was a bad decision I will let you know when it gets here
I was set for 27 inch 1440p, but given the price of them I decided I wanted something more exciting, in the end I went with a 2nd hand 34inch curved Ultrawide 1440p for under £400, so a similar price to a 27 inch new.
Whether or not it was a bad decision I will let you know when it gets here
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I think you could certainly argue that for gaming at least it is still a little early for superwide, support is limited and even where it does exist it sometimes needs enabling by hacking some config files and doesn't extend to things like cutscenes. The same was true when widescreen came out, BF2142 and BF2 both lacked proper support even though they were pretty active/new games when widescreens started to become popular. I get the impression UW purchasing has accounted for a significant proportion of sales this year so we should expect support in the next wave of titles/engines.
When it comes to work however I don't think there's any such thing as too wide, its much easier to look side to side than up and down and I suspect many people are like me and are really bad at switching between windows efficiently.
The AG352UCG is a tempting monitor as it gives you a decent res with a useful vertical number of pixels (I hate 1080p its not enough to get a readable datasheet on screen) and 100Hz Gsync for about the same price as a similar LG with a very limited FreeSync range. However while the reviews are largely positive you should check out the comments on overclock.net regarding colours which would suggest they are not as vibrant as the colours you might get from say the X34. It is also apparently unclear is the monitor is 6bit+FRC or 8bit as there is apparently some very obvious dithering on the images. Personally I'm going to try it and see, although its far from clear when AOC will stop giving continental Europe all its units and ship some over here instead.
When it comes to work however I don't think there's any such thing as too wide, its much easier to look side to side than up and down and I suspect many people are like me and are really bad at switching between windows efficiently.
The AG352UCG is a tempting monitor as it gives you a decent res with a useful vertical number of pixels (I hate 1080p its not enough to get a readable datasheet on screen) and 100Hz Gsync for about the same price as a similar LG with a very limited FreeSync range. However while the reviews are largely positive you should check out the comments on overclock.net regarding colours which would suggest they are not as vibrant as the colours you might get from say the X34. It is also apparently unclear is the monitor is 6bit+FRC or 8bit as there is apparently some very obvious dithering on the images. Personally I'm going to try it and see, although its far from clear when AOC will stop giving continental Europe all its units and ship some over here instead.
I decided to to give the AOC Agon AG352UCG a go too. Currently it's the best option for ultrawide.
You get 100hz native refresh, a proper curve which will help with peripheral vision and its 35".
Check out the review on https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/aoc-ag352ucg/ you can order it like I did from the link at the end of the review to support the review site AND it's in stock.
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Wulf
You get 100hz native refresh, a proper curve which will help with peripheral vision and its 35".
Check out the review on https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/aoc-ag352ucg/ you can order it like I did from the link at the end of the review to support the review site AND it's in stock.
Best
Wulf
Don't forget you can run a custom 21.9 resolution on a 16.9 display although you will get black bars at the top and bottom. 21.9 isn't just about extra physical wideness, it also about the extra FOV you get without fish eye.
Personally I love 21.9 and couldn't go back to 16.9, 16.9 feels like 4.3 felt when 16.9 came out. I've had zero problems with all the games I've played lately, haven't even had to do anything file tweak wise etc. 4 years ago when I first got mine? Yup definitely. Last 2 years, nope. Pre-rendered cutscenes are 16.9 and sometimes the HUD is stuck in 16.9 position but this seems to be getting better now, cut scenes don't bother me but the HUD does....
Regarding the aoc "dithering" (I believe you meant banding?), it isn't necessarily down to the 6 bit +FRC and I don't think it is particularly a problem with "VA" either, especially if there is no noticeable banding being shown in this test:
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gradient.php
I think it is largely down to the VA panel with its high contrast ratio and deep blacks showing banding in the source material, IPS/TN somewhat "mask" the issue with their poor contrast ratios and blacks.
Personally I love 21.9 and couldn't go back to 16.9, 16.9 feels like 4.3 felt when 16.9 came out. I've had zero problems with all the games I've played lately, haven't even had to do anything file tweak wise etc. 4 years ago when I first got mine? Yup definitely. Last 2 years, nope. Pre-rendered cutscenes are 16.9 and sometimes the HUD is stuck in 16.9 position but this seems to be getting better now, cut scenes don't bother me but the HUD does....
Regarding the aoc "dithering" (I believe you meant banding?), it isn't necessarily down to the 6 bit +FRC and I don't think it is particularly a problem with "VA" either, especially if there is no noticeable banding being shown in this test:
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gradient.php
I think it is largely down to the VA panel with its high contrast ratio and deep blacks showing banding in the source material, IPS/TN somewhat "mask" the issue with their poor contrast ratios and blacks.
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Check out the review on https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/aoc-ag352ucg/ you can order it like I did from the link at the end of the review to support the review site AND it's in stock.
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If you count buying it from a dodgy reseller in spain for a huge premium...
I probably do, I don't think it is something that would bother me but it is something that seems to bother some of them and may bother other picky people....
This is in stock and I checked out the reseller before ordering. Plus reading through the forums on PCM's website others have used this link and have theirs.
Over here this monitor is preorder only from the small amount of retailers that list it. It's a premium but I can absorb the cost and will be using mine most likely before they are available here.
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Wulf
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Well I had a snoop around what other people are paying in Europe and somewhere around £700 is not uncommon (even in countries with a higher VAT rate), 900 is way over the top. If I was prepared to spend that much I'd already have an X34, regardless non-guaranteed 100hz overclock etc
This is in stock and I checked out the reseller before ordering. Plus reading through the forums on PCM's website others have used this link and have theirs.
Over here this monitor is preorder only from the small amount of retailers that list it. It's a premium but I can absorb the cost and will be using mine most likely before they are available here.
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I'd be pre ordering from the huge online retailer for £720 rather than spend £800+ from some other source. Seems madness.
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I would say a 40" 4k. I dithered over this for ages and ended up with a samsung 4k tv which is working out really well ans cost just over £400 so a bargain as well.
It has just more width than a 35" 21:9 and a lot more height. Love it.
Its not always just about pixel count and screensize but about aspect ratio and refresh rate and some of us actually prefer 21:9 to 16:9. I would not want to touch 4k if gaming is one of the main things i would do. Not until 4k is easier to drive and comes with native 75hz+ refresh rate. But thats my preference of course. That said the 21:9 monitors in 34+ inches are stupid expensive. First adopters are really getting milked hard here. I know ive been one of them. Gsync models are even worse, i guess thats the price you have to be willing to pay if you own green hardware sadly
.Its not always just about pixel count and screensize but about aspect ratio and refresh rate and some of us actually prefer 21:9 to 16:9. I would not want to touch 4k if gaming is one of the main things i would do. Not until 4k is easier to drive and comes with native 75hz+ refresh rate. But thats my preference of course. That said the 21:9 monitors in 34+ inches are stupid expensive. First adopters are really getting milked hard here. I know ive been one of them. Gsync models are even worse, i guess thats the price you have to be willing to pay if you own green hardware sadly
Yeah, preference is the big thing. I personally did not like the 32 inch monitor I had (before I had to return it due to fault) because it was too big height wise for my tastes, so a 40 inch definitely would not be for me.
At the same time, I did like the width of 32 inch, ultrawide became very tempting for me.
In the end I got the Samsung SE790C, only had it a day but perfect for me so far. Obviously not many people's first pick due to VA, no Free/G-Sync, only 60hz. But for my gaming I don't need the fancy 100hz+ nor has the need for sync occurred to me and decent black is more important than the colour of IPS my demands are obviously fairly low compared to most. The fact I got it for under £400 also made it an easier sell for me
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There appear to be 7 AG352UCG, presumably with whoever the distributor is, showing as UK stock with a couple of places right now @ £773 or £854 a pretty miserable qty.