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Hi all

So been in a lot of debt for quite a long time, made a lot of mistakes growing up, and now stuck with huge debt over credit cards, overdraft and a loan, never missed any payments, but just never able to pay extra to pay off sooner, so just going along with things for now.
I'm just wondering if anyone has ever used an IVA or any company that offer to help with this kind of debt.

Many thanks
Jason
 
Thanks all.
I will check out step change.
I have around 18k debt across the accounts I have, my earnings are around 6k more than that.

Things have changed a lot for me over the last 2 and a bit years, and I did get further into debt because of the pandemic / lock downs, but now things hopefully are going the right way, I need to tackle this hard now, fed up of living pay check to pay check, and always playing catch-up with my finances, so I think now is time I deal with it!

Many thanks everyone for your replies, I will check out step change and see what options / advice they can offer.
 
Thanks everyone for your replies so far, its been a good help and I have started an account with Step Change to see what help is available to me.
I just want to add that things spiraled out of control around 12 years ago.
I had just got out working full time, I had a credit card and a small loan of 2k, a laptop on HP and a small amount of debt on a clothing account, I had maybe 4k worth of debt, then the bank rang me one day, saying they needed to see me, and didn't say why.
So organized a time to go in, being young and naïve, I said yes to everything, and was given a brand new credit card, a new 5k loan (iirc) which gave me extra to keep back, then a packaged bank account, nothing I had asked for, but not knowing any better, I accepted it all, then that's when things started going pear shaped.
Years later after I saw the mis sold package bank accounts, I was able to get a sizeable refund from the bank.


@Jasoncmor You say 18k over all accounts, is this all credit cards or is this broken down into different debt obligations? Are you able to provide a rough breakdown of what the debts made up of?

The debt is spread over 3 credit cards, and a loan, the loan of around 9.5k, and the credit cards adding up to over 8k aswell.
The loan was to help with college costs and paying off other debt, the credit cards started at 1 card, then I got a 0% card, transferred the existing cards credit across to try and manage it, then things got out of hand, so I found another 0% card and its just built up again.
While I have been foolish, most of the debt has been from paying for things I needed, and playing catch up, but also the debt has amounted to what it has due to the interest, i've moved things around regularly to try and help myself out, but its never gone as intended.

I know in the past i've made mistakes, but my biggest problem is i've never been able to save anything up for the things that I need, for example, car insurance comes around, then next month I may need car repairs / service, then dental care, then something else comes along, so I've been playing catchup for many years.



Have recently helped a friend of mine through this and took some pretty simple steps which seem to be helping him massively.
Step change is of course a great suggestion and for sure should be done but there are things you can do today to start changing things for the better.

1: Create a Incomings / Outgoings spreadsheet. You dont need any fancy tools just use Google sheets, commit to memory your total outgoings
2: Itemise and scrutinise your outgoings from your bank statements, highlight anything with a marker that did not have to be spent (eg subscriptions, insruances etc) and cancel them.
3: Seperate your monthly bills money from your free money by using seperate bank accounts. 1 for bills, 1 for spending.
4: Before going food shopping make a list of what you need and stick to it, dont buy things ad-hoc or on a whim.
5: If any hobbies you have are particularly expensive to participate in either reduce or change. eg my friend enjoys dirt bikes and every weekend was off somewhere new to ride them. When we added up his fuel bill alone it was nearly £600 p/m. He only commutes 18 miles a day so the rest was mileage for his hobby.

This is something I want to work towards soon, budgeting and planning my finances.
For quite a while now, I have been making spreadsheets of exactly what I've been spending money on at the end of each month.


Are you already in defaults on your debts and reported as such on credit files - if so, no harm in going for a DRO (Debt Relief Order) - assuming you have no house, a car worth less than £2k and less than £75 after non credit bills leftover a month. Debts are frozen for 12 months and assuming your circumstances don't improve, all debt written off after 12 months.

Also get onto the debt section of MoneySavingExpert forums, has a lot of posters that work for the debt charities on there, they were a gold mine of help during my bankruptcy in 2007.

All debts are paid on time, I have no defaults or anything, I've always done what I need to do to make sure I make the payments on time.
And thanks for the recommendation on MSE, I will check it out!


I would try and get a 0% Interest credit card first. There are loads of 34 month ones that should give you time to actually make a dent in the debt as you won't be paying just the Interest. Once it comes to the end of the 34 months just get another 0% and transfer any of the unpaid debt over and do another 34 months until it's paid off.

Currently got 2 0% cards, one virgin and the 0% rate ended last year, my 2nd one I think it has a few months left on the offer.



This is what I was going to suggest. Transfer credit card debt to an interest free card and use the grace period to pay down or pay off the debt. Do it piece by piece and to make it manageable, set targets and goals and work to them.

Due to my credit score, im not able to get any more cards at the moment.
I have a low score due to the amount of credit I have.

Are you struggling to meet the payments, or just want to try and clear it down quicker? Unless you're struggling, it's probably better in the long term to pay it off rather than enter into an IVA or debt management plan, as this can stay on your credit file for up to 6 years

I'm able to meet the payments month on month, but I dont earn enough to save any money, or to pay any extra, i'm living pay check to pay check because I cant escape.

Thanks again all
 
Thank you to everyone for your replies and suggestions, it really is much appreciated.
Declaring myself bankrupt will be the absolute last thing I'd do, I had considered an IVA, however I have been in contact with Step Change as many of you have suggested, who recommended a Debt Management Plan, and they are helping me with setting up a DMP , it's going to take some time but hopefully this will be a step in the right direction, and I can get back on top of my finances once and for all.
I believe all my creditors have been spoken to and set up to receive a monthly payment from what I will be paying to Step Change, I just hope none of the creditors try to take me to court or similar.
This all begins on the 1st November.


can you not do overtime or get a second job to make extra income ?

I already work 6 days a week at my current job, and there isn't any more hours available for me, however I am hoping to improve my situation soon when things start heading in the right direction.


I appreciate your support! Hopefully you don't find yourself in a similar situation, whether its through no fault of your own, or not.


stop buying bidets and gucci belts for a start

Ironically, while I own a lot of "stuff", i don't really own anything expensive, but point taken!


You mentioned you do use a spreadsheet to show ingoings and outgoings already?
I wonder what that actually looks like? How much on there is an absolute neccesity vs wants?
After you have factored in mortgage/rent, electricity, gas, water, car payments, petrol, council tax, Basic food requirements (not fast food or eating out) etc what is left after your pay cheque?

I've been keeping one for many years just because I like to keep track of things. Never had any debt although I'm a very frugal person to a point where my parents have expressed worry over how "tight" I am thinking I have some kind of ADHD or autism some reason? I look at it more as not wanting to spend more than necessary on anything and will take the time to find what I want at the best price and doing research to make sure it's actually something I need rather than just fancy.

Weirdly, i go write these down every month, get mad at myself for being in the situation and struggling, then carry on working and doing the same thing over and over again, its been extremely stressful and depressing to be honest, however, I think i've sought help at the right time.
I get paid monthly, and after all bills are taken out, I have around £250 a month to spend on food, fuel and what ever I need, saying it like that sounds like a lot, but sadly it doesn't get very far.


@Jasoncmor

Are you able to give a breakdown of the figures for each credit card and the interest % on them as well as the loan?
Do you know what your credit score is?
Do you have any disposable income or anywhere where you could cut back?

Also reading what you have put in your latest post it kinda suggests you maybe fell foul of some predatory lending given you had a credit card bal, £2k loan, HP agreement and storecard debt then the bank offered you another credit card and a loan around the same size as the debt obligations you already had. I assume you weren't earning fancy money when you first started working so the fact they basically offered you the means to double your debt is a bit horrifying to be honest. It may be worth looking at raising a case with the ombudsman for predatory lending but i think we would need to get a better idea of the circumstances at the time.

I helped a friend raise 2 predatory/unaffordable lending ombudsman cases against WONGA and PeachyLoans as they got caught in the payday lending trap. They upheld 14/16 wonga loans and 21/27 Peachyloans as predatory if my memory serves me. They were removed from their credit file and the interest on the loans was instructed to be paid back to them but sadly Wonga went under and they got a fraction of what they were owed (thousands) but they did get the full payment from Peachyloans days before they went under.

I will definitely look into contacting the ombudsman regarding the products sold to me all those years ago, thanks for the suggestion!
1 card has just over 2k debt on it, but its a balance transfer so currently paying the minimum on that, the other 2, one has around 4.5k on it, the other just short of 2k, im pretty sure the interest rate is around 19.9% but I will have to double check, the loan is around 9.5k and that's approx 9% IIRC.
I get a credit score through my bank and i occasionally look at experian, last time I looked through lloyds, which was quite recent, it was around 560.

Thanks again everyone for you help, its truly appreciated!
Jason
 
Thanks again everyone for your support and advice, I really am greatful!

Providing you keep up your payments to Stepchange, you’ll be absolutely fine. Just don’t miss a payment.

Thank you for the reassurance!
All being well with the letters Step Change sent out to all my creditors, they will accept the offer and I can get started on dealing with this mess!

No advice over what has always been written - just a note of praise for acknowledging the issue and moving to do something about it by asking for help. That's the hardest step with any problem and deserves respect.

Thank you, I really appreciate it!
I've been stuck in this trap for too long, I guess I just felt it was time to actively do something about it.

Its good that you are getting somewhere with step change. In the grand scheme of things a DMP is prob the less of all the evils when it comes to paying off the debt and not nailing your credit file too hard. I would 100% keep a spreadsheet of the expenses and outgoings regardless of how bad it might feel to see it all going out but it helps you to keep track of whats going where. I check my bills off on my spreadsheet as they go out so i know its paid and accounted for. You could also project the spreadsheet forward to the point where some of the debts drop off so as you update it you can see yourself getting closer to the point where a certain debt is cleared and the disposable income goes up. Use it as a motivator to work towards it.

Regarding the ombudsman suggestion, its a bit of a hail mary approach and if you are in a DMP that all parties have agreed to then it might ruin that relationship with that lender so just be mindful of that. When i helped my friend with the predatory lending claim, they had just gotten out of the borrowing loop with payday loans and they went after them as a punitive act so it wasnt as if they could do anything in retaliation. After all this is over and they cant retaliate it might be worth yoloing some claims to see if you can reclaim something back.

Regarding the £250 a month you have left for food and fuel etc. How much is your grocery shopping per week and whats your cooking ability like? You are right £250 a month for things like that doesnt go far.

You've taken a positive step to turn things around so well done and keep it up. Rooting for you and the time you can post "Im debt free"


Thank you, I really appreciate your message!
I think you're right regarding the ombudsman suggestion, think its best to get things under control and maybe just forget about what happened and learn from my mistakes.
We spend roughly £60 a week on food for 2 of us, sometimes we buy extra bits to stick in the freezer, for example a big pack of chicken, portioned up and defrosted when needed, so some times it can be a bit less. My cooking skills are pretty good to be fair, I do need more inspiration though to try different ideas lol.
I will be continuing my spread sheets and watching where I can either cut back on and watch where money is going, if all my creditors accept the offer than SC has put forth, then its going to put me in a really good position.


I don't have any advice beyond what has been stated before - it is the best advice.

But I wanted to say - much respect for trying - stick with it, focus on incoming vs. outgoings. Get the balance right if you can. If you can't and it looks desperate, don't be afraid to look for more help e.g. food banks or other charities.

Thank you, I really appreciate it!

100% this. Don't fall into the trap of trying to pay it off as quickly as possible (tempting as that may be). If you leave yourself with nothing spare, then it just takes one unexpected bill/payment to have you looking at borrowing to cover it and ending up back in the debt spiral.

Thats always been my problem, ive been paying all my debts and never been able to save any money for a rainy day, but, if the DMP goes to plan, then its going to put me in a good position to get back on top of things and save also!

I added a few "bills" to the amount I had left over when Stepchange asked about my budget. I kept the "bills" money and put it into the credit union account. At the time the CU only had accounts where they gave you a log book so it was actually a pain in the rear to go and withdraw it. However I viewed the CU payment as a "debt" I had to pay, even though it was savings. I did end up having to get a new fridge and was able to withdraw the money to buy a new fridge, whilst not breaching my repayment plan with Stepchange. Don't be shy in creating some "creative accounting" to engineer a few quid for emergencies for you. Good luck :)

Good idea, thank you!
 
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