Decent Overclock for AMD 4200 X2 (Socket 940) - Windsor

dj_wymo

dj_wymo

dj_wymo

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Hi there.

I am a bit of a n00b to this overclocking malarky. I have read the guide and also downloaded CPUZ and Prime95. I have just built a new system comprising of:

1Gb Corsair DDR2 Ram (800mhz)
AMD Dual Core 4200+ (Socket 939)
Asus M2N Sli Deluxe Mobo.

I currently have the standard HS and fan on the CPU.

I was wondering what settings you guys have for your 4200s, and RAM also. I have attached a screenshot of my CPUZ stats.

Can anybody reccommend a decent OC for this system?

All help much appreciated

Craig

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Well lads

Cheers for all the help!

Surely someone can reccomend a good OC for this system. Its just sat here waiting to be unleased.

I have read the guide but dont fully understand it tbh. Was hoping someone may have some BIOS settings that I could give a whirl.

Craig :(
 
Since your totally noob, try this:

-Lower LDT/FSB multiplier thing(different name for every board) to 4x
-Increase FSB, aka HTT.

I reckon you can get it to about 2.5 ghz or more by doing just those two things. Also make sure PCI and PCI-E frequency is locked to its respective 33mhz and 100mhz.


But in the end, there's nothing we can do for you, it's all up to you!
 
Thanks a lot for your reply mate, I will do just that.

Am i right in thinking that the HT Link wants to be as near as 1000 as possible? What are the consequences if it ends up at say, 940, or 1040?

Thanks for the help.

Craig
 
dj_wymo said:
Thanks a lot for your reply mate, I will do just that.

Am i right in thinking that the HT Link wants to be as near as 1000 as possible? What are the consequences if it ends up at say, 940, or 1040?

Thanks for the help.

Craig
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Yep, exactly right. The HTT speed is massively undersaturated so if it's between say 700-1000MHz for instance, there won't be any noticable difference (if any) in performance. There's nothing 'really' wrong per say in having the HTT lint speed at 1,100MHz for example but some mobos won't like this as much as others. I'd aim to have it lower than 1,000MHz in the first instance, that way you can rule it out of the equation if other things start to go wrong!
 
El Jimben said:
Yep, exactly right. The HTT speed is massively undersaturated so if it's between say 700-1000MHz for instance, there won't be any noticable difference (if any) in performance. There's nothing 'really' wrong per say in having the HTT lint speed at 1,100MHz for example but some mobos won't like this as much as others. I'd aim to have it lower than 1,000MHz in the first instance, that way you can rule it out of the equation if other things start to go wrong!
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Just having a go now with the settings as you said. Whats this thing about altering the Latency/Voltage/Frequency of the memory etc etc? Or do just want to look at that when I have the CPU side of things ticking over nicely?

Thanks again

Craig
 
dj_wymo said:
Just having a go now with the settings as you said. Whats this thing about altering the Latency/Voltage/Frequency of the memory etc etc? Or do just want to look at that when I have the CPU side of things ticking over nicely?

Thanks again

Craig
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Tbh, I have no idea about DDR2 memory, as I'm on a S939 setup. You can probably leave those alone for now until you start getting system hangs, random restarts etc (yes, you may have those to look forward to while seeking 100% stability :D ). Might be an idea if you could post the SPD tab from CPUZ though so we can see what timings etc your RAM should be running at against what it is now.
 
El Jimben said:
Tbh, I have no idea about DDR2 memory, as I'm on a S939 setup. You can probably leave those alone for now until you start getting system hangs, random restarts etc (yes, you may have those to look forward to while seeking 100% stability :D ). Might be an idea if you could post the SPD tab from CPUZ though so we can see what timings etc your RAM should be running at against what it is now.
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OK mate

Here are my current settings and RAM setup.

I am running SP2004 now, and core temps seem to be staying around 40-42 degrees c.

What do my RAM settings look like then...... (I have two sticks of 512 btw)

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Cheers

Craig
 
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Not bad to start with :) Eventually, you'll wanna run sp2004 or prime for a good few hours to ensure total stability. What speed is your RAM running at now coz from the SPD tab, you can see that it's rated to run @ 400MHz at 4-4-4-12 and in the first shot, you were only running at 368MHZ with slacker timings i.e. 5-5-5-18.
 
El Jimben said:
Not bad to start with :) Eventually, you'll wanna run sp2004 or prime for a good few hours to ensure total stability. What speed is your RAM running at now coz from the SPD tab, you can see that it's rated to run @ 400MHz at 4-4-4-12 and in the first shot, you were only running at 368MHZ with slacker timings i.e. 5-5-5-18.
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Under the memory tab now, the memory Frequency says 416mhz. All the other information has remained the same.

Is this an issue, with it being rated at 400mhz?

I have locked the PCI-E frequency to 100mhz in the BIOS by the way.

Thanks guys

Craig
 
joeyjojo said:
The volts must be reading wrong. Check cool'n'quiet is off though.
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I must admit, that jumped at me from a mile off. It must be wrong.

Cool and Quiet is off. I think i read that the standard voltage for the CPU is 3.84v or something.

God knows why it says 1.10v.
 
dj_wymo said:
I must admit, that jumped at me from a mile off. It must be wrong.

Cool and Quiet is off. I think i read that the standard voltage for the CPU is 3.84v or something.

God knows why it says 1.10v.
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I'll tell you what, if you run 3.84V through your cpu it will be burnt to hell in a split second :D . Stock Vcore is 1.35V, keep it at that until it gets unstable. My x2 3800+ can do 2.6ghz at 1.35V, you might get further.
 
dj_wymo said:
Under the memory tab now, the memory Frequency says 416mhz. All the other information has remained the same.

Is this an issue, with it being rated at 400mhz?

I have locked the PCI-E frequency to 100mhz in the BIOS by the way.

Thanks guys

Craig
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Probably not an issue that your RAM is currently running quicker than it's supposed to, as most RAM will overclock without any extra voltage or changes to the timings. There's usually a trade off between tight timings and bandwith (i.e. MHz) so as your timings are slightly slacker than the default, they should be good to go higher, I can't say by how much though.

If you CPU will clock much higher and the RAM speed is far in excess of 400MHz then you'll have to put it on a divder. As I said above, my knowledge of AM2 and DDR2 is pretty limited so you might want to have a fiddle yourself to see what the various dividers do and also remember that google is your friend :D
 
sablabra said:
I'll tell you what, if you run 3.84V through your cpu it will be burnt to hell in a split second :D . Stock Vcore is 1.35V, keep it at that until it gets unstable. My x2 3800+ can do 2.6ghz at 1.35V, you might get further.
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Hey, I knew it had a three in it, lol. :D

Well its currently @ 2.5Ghz with a HT Link of 908.

I think I will leave it as it is for the time being, unless something is majorly wrong. Im going to run SP2004 for a good few hours to ensure stability.

What are the max temps I want to be hitting on the VCore? :confused:

Cheers lads

Craig
 
Yeh, stress it for a while under those settings and see what it says. Your load temps want to be under 60c as an absolute max, 50-55 is fine and I doubt you'll get anywhere near that yet with stock vcore.
 
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