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I currently have an aging, but quite capable, system. Specs as below:

4GB OCZ Rev2 Platinum Ram
Opteron 165 OCed to 2.9 Ghz :eek:
DFI Lanparty SLI-DR Socket 939
Audigy 2
Geforce 6800 Ultra
2x250 GB WD Sata 1 hard disks
1x 500gb Samsung Sata 2
Lian Li PC something or other case with 80mm fans (Noisey fans too!)
19 inch Hyundai L90D+

It's starting to creak along and latest games now have to be played at lower res. Not bad for four years of age though!

Now, I want a HTPC to go in my lounge and hook up to my Panny Plasma via HDMI. This machine will have Mediaportal on it and also be used as a download box overnight. I want to use it as a blu ray player and playing back other media such as iPlayer etc.

I also want an updated gaming rig. I am not a heavy gamer but would at least like to play Crysis on a decent setting along with Left 4 Dead and also be slightly future proof.

My plan is to port the rig above into a HTPC case and fit a silent gfx card along with a blu ray drive and then build another rig from scratch. But as you can see I am somewhat out of touch with systems so have no clue what is best to buy for future proofing etc.

I probably have about 700 quid tops. Is this a fair plan for that budget or would I be better investing 500 in the HTPC and get a cheap gfx card upgrade for my old rig for gaming? I don't even know if the DFI board supports the latest PCI express cards :confused:

Any advise and help is greatly appreciated :)
 
Yeah I think you'd be best using your existing set up as HTPC and building a new gaming PC, just buy a nice HTPC case and use rivatuner to turn down the fan speed on your 6800, I'll do a spec for 600 for a new gaming rig, that leaves you £100 for case and any other bits you might need for HTPC

This comes in a little over at 630, you could save a bit (£20) on the RAM if youre willing to wait for the cheaper stuff to come back in stock, includes new OS (not sure if you need, obviously if you dont you can boost other areas - gfx for best boost for gaming)
sry photobucket not playing atm

AMD Phenom II X3 Tri Core 720 Black Edition 2.8GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £120.74 (£104.99)
Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P (Socket AM3) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard £112.99 (£98.25)
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM (66I-01939) £89.99 (£78.25)
XFX ATI Radeon HD 4770 512MB PCI-Express - Retail (HD-477A-YDLC) £88.99 (£77.38)
Corsair XMS3 DHX 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600C9DHX Twin3X (TW3X4G1600C9DHX) £68.99 (£59.99)
Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (WD6401AALS) £55.99 (£48.69)
OCZ StealthXStream 500w Silent ATX2 Power Supply £40.99 (£35.64)
Coolermaster Elite 335 Case - Black (No PSU) £32.99 (£28.69)
Samsung SH-S223F/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM £17.99 (£15.64)
Sub Total : £547.52
Shipping cost based on delivery to Home:
FREE SHIPPING (DPD Next Day)
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : FREE
VAT is being charged at 15.00% VAT : £82.13
Total : £629.65
 
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Yeah I think you'd be best using your existing set up as HTPC and building a new gaming PC, just buy a nice HTPC case and use rivatuner to turn down the fan speed on your 6800, I'll do a spec for 600 for a new gaming rig, that leaves you £100 for case and any other bits you might need for HTPC

You're a legend, many many thanks. I have heard i7 is the way to go but I suspect that would be outside my budget? My lian li is mint but noisey and I forgot to add I have an enermax noisetaker psu in the rig as well.

/edit= the 6800 doesn't do HDMI out so I think I will need a new gfx card for the HTPC
 
SilverStone Lascala LC17S HTPC Case Silver £71
Asus ATI Radeon HD 3650 Vcool Silent 512MB GDDR2 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express £54.04
Keysonic ACK-612RF Black Wireless Keyboard with TouchPad £29.99

£166

I take it you don't need a blue ray drive.
Use your existing case on the new games machine and if you want tos ave money or upgrade something else could aways go c2d

 
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I like my existing case but it is really cramped and the 80mm fans are noisey despite them supposedly being low noise. I also need to consider the power usage of the HTPC as it will be on almost 24/7
 
AMD-NVidia gaming rig:

Antec 300 Three Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case £49.99 inc VAT
OCZ StealthXStream 600w Silent SLI Ready ATX2 Power Supply £62.99 inc VAT
Asus M4A78 PRO AMD 780G (Socket AM2+/AM3) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard £90.84 inc VAT
AMD Phenom II X3 Tri Core 720 Black Edition 2.8GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £120.74 inc VAT
Kingston HyperX 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 8500C5 1066MHz Dual Channel £43.99 inc VAT
Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM £48.99 inc VAT
Samsung SH-S223F/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM £17.99 inc VAT
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM £89.99 inc VAT
OcUK Value GeForce GTX 260 "Core 216 55nm" 896MB GDDR3 Dual DVI (PCI-Express) + Mirror's Edge £139.99 inc VAT

Total £679.87 inc vat & £12.50 shipping

AMD-ATI gaming rig:

Antec 300 Three Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case £49.99 inc VAT
OCZ StealthXStream 600w Silent SLI Ready ATX2 Power Supply £62.99 inc VAT
Asus M4A78 PRO AMD 780G (Socket AM2+/AM3) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard £90.84 inc VAT
AMD Phenom II X3 Tri Core 720 Black Edition 2.8GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £120.74 inc VAT
Kingston HyperX 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 8500C5 1066MHz Dual Channel £43.99 inc VAT
Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM £48.99 inc VAT
Samsung SH-S223F/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM £17.99 inc VAT
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM £89.99 inc VAT
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 4870 1024MB GDDR5 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express) - Retail £149.49 inc VAT

Total £689.37 inc vat & £12.50 shipping
 
Thanks to everyone for taking the time to knock me up specs.

I have decided on using my existing system plus a new low end HD graphics card for my HTPC and to build a 600 quid gaming rig.

Out of curiosity though, how to the Phenom II tri-cores stack up against the i7s and quad cores and does the socket they are on have a dcent lifespan?

Thanks once again guys :)
 
The 720BE is considered an excellent chip (although I'm biased, I own one). Tri-core was found by tom's to be the current best compromise between cost and performance - very little will use the power of all 4 cores, but many will use the 3rd.

You'll find that in CPU intensive tasks, nothing matches up to an i7 - they're very powerful. In every day use, however, you want bang-for-buck which you can only get on 775/AM[2+/3]

The x3 720BE pretty much stacks up against the Q6600. A core less (although some motherboards can re-enable it in a reported 1/3 of chips), but clocks very well and runs cool. You can get a 720BE + decent motherboard for <£200 (as opposed to more like £250 for a Q6600)

I'm not even pushing mine at 3.6gHz, literally upped the multiplier and then the voltage until stable - runs at a frosty 40c load.
 
my attempt

your basket

Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 4870 1024MB GDDR5 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express) - Retail £142.99
(£124.34)
AMD Phenom II X3 Tri Core 720 Black Edition 2.8GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £120.74
(£104.99)
Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P (Socket AM3) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard £112.99
(£98.25)
Corsair XMS3 DHX 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600C9DHX Twin3X (TW3X4G1600C9DHX) £68.99
(£59.99)
Coolermaster Real Power 520w Modular Power Supply
£67.99
(£59.12)
Hitachi Deskstar P7K500 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (0A35415)
£42.99
(£37.38)
Coolermaster Elite 335 Case - Black (No PSU)
£32.99
(£28.69)
Samsung SH-S223F/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM
£17.99
(£15.64)
Sub Total : £528.40
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £11.75
VAT is being charged at 15% VAT : £81.02
Total : £621.17

EDIT:just noticed you've got a lian li, I'd stick with that and perhaps change the fans
 
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