Delid or upgrade

random_matt · 19 Nov 2019 at 12:57

10920X after Xmas or delid 7800X and wait till the summer, or perhaps even until PS5 drops. Likely when you will need an eight core processor at the very least.

Sargatanas2511 · 19 Nov 2019 at 13:21

Are you having performance issues just now or are you just eager to tinker?

random_matt · 19 Nov 2019 at 13:24

Sargatanas2511 said:
Are you having performance issues just now or are you just eager to tinker?

The latter, I'm kinda impulsive.

alec · 19 Nov 2019 at 13:29

Question should be delid or buy Ryzen 3900x or 3950x. Both are faster than the upcoming 10920X

What do you expect from delid? It will lower temps, but overclock headroom is hit and miss.

Sargatanas2511 · 19 Nov 2019 at 14:02

random_matt said:
The latter, I'm kinda impulsive.

Honestly I would say consider looking at going Zen2 then, it'll probably make a bigger difference and mean you could move to Zen3 next year without buying another new board.

Delidding will make minimal difference to be honest.

random_matt · 19 Nov 2019 at 14:32

Buy a whole new platform? No thanks.
I guess I'll wait until the new ones release.

Steveocee · 19 Nov 2019 at 14:37

Was in a similar position, delid an 8700K or upgrade to 9900K. I ended up delidding and then 3 weeks later upgrading anyway as it didn't scratch the itch.

Minibiker · 19 Nov 2019 at 14:41

Steveocee said:
Was in a similar position, delid an 8700K or upgrade to 9900K. I ended up delidding and then 3 weeks later upgrading anyway as it didn't scratch the itch.

Did you see much gains from Delidding your CPU? I've always been curious about this type of stuff

Sargatanas2511 · 19 Nov 2019 at 14:53

random_matt said:
Buy a whole new platform? No thanks.
I guess I'll wait until the new ones release.

It's not really a new platform. It's a motherboard and processor, exactly the same as what you would buy if you upgraded to an Intel 10xxx processor.

random_matt · 19 Nov 2019 at 15:02

Minibiker said:
Did you see much gains from Delidding your CPU? I've always been curious about this type of stuff

Also intrigued, says up to 20c drop. Only one MATX AM4 board, that is a problem.

Steveocee · 19 Nov 2019 at 16:22

Minibiker said:
Did you see much gains from Delidding your CPU? I've always been curious about this type of stuff

I don't have any screenshots but saved about 15 degrees at gaming temps. Idle temps were down a bit as well. Never pushed it past 4.8 as undecided to go i9. Haven't talked myself into delidding the i9 yet.

Minibiker · 19 Nov 2019 at 16:24

Steveocee said:
I don't have any screenshots but saved about 15 degrees at gaming temps. Idle temps were down a bit as well. Never pushed it past 4.8 as undecided to go i9. Haven't talked myself into delidding the i9 yet.

That's crazy I knew it helps with temps but didn't realise it was that much :eek:

bet the i9 will benefit well from a delid

b00merang69 · 19 Nov 2019 at 16:24

You should gain 100mhz without issue if its not already on limits.

Some have seen 20-30c drops.

Steveocee · 19 Nov 2019 at 16:26

Minibiker said:
That's crazy I knew it helps with temps but didn't realise it was that much bet the i9 will benefit well from a delid

The i9 is soldered so the reductions aren't quite as good but it's a really solid tweak you can do on anything ivy bridge to coffee lake.

I talked the benefits of a quiet system running cooler but it gives headroom for more vcore for higher clocks.

random_matt · 19 Nov 2019 at 19:47

Steveocee said:
The i9 is soldered so the reductions aren't quite as good but it's a really solid tweak you can do on anything ivy bridge to coffee lake.

I talked the benefits of a quiet system running cooler but it gives headroom for more vcore for higher clocks.

Might wait till the summer to upgrade then, not like I need to anyway as of yet.

sideways14a · 19 Nov 2019 at 19:51

Intel must be damm pleased that at least someone is interested in there processors next year

Steveocee · 19 Nov 2019 at 20:11

sideways14a said:
Intel must be damm pleased that at least someone is interested in there processors next year

The has been such noise about AMD keeping the same socket that it rarely is said that Intel isn't always a new socket. Granted it's rarely and only 1 gen but there are some people who it applies to and they are the people who don't want to swap their whole platform out.

Sargatanas2511 · 19 Nov 2019 at 21:11

Steveocee said:
The has been such noise about AMD keeping the same socket that it rarely is said that Intel isn't always a new socket. Granted it's rarely and only 1 gen but there are some people who it applies to and they are the people who don't want to swap their whole platform out.

Take the 9900K vs the 3900X. Previous Intel users had to buy a new motherboard for the 9900K, the 9900K itself and a cooler for it (if not reusing their current one/it doesn't fit). A previous generation Zen user just updates their BIOS and slots in a 3900X without the cost of a board and possibly a new cooler as well.

I am not really sure why anyone would be totally ok with spending £200 on a board last gen, another £200 this gen then £200 next gen if they want to keep upgrading.

Huggie86 · 19 Nov 2019 at 22:56

I have a Maximus X Hero Z370 and the latest bios runs 9900k's perfectly fine.

Steveocee · 20 Nov 2019 at 06:34

Sargatanas2511 said:
Take the 9900K vs the 3900X. Previous Intel users had to buy a new motherboard for the 9900K, the 9900K itself and a cooler for it (if not reusing their current one/it doesn't fit). A previous generation Zen user just updates their BIOS and slots in a 3900X without the cost of a board and possibly a new cooler as well.

I am not really sure why anyone would be totally ok with spending £200 on a board last gen, another £200 this gen then £200 next gen if they want to keep upgrading.

Aside from the fact that the 9900K can work on most Z370 boards with a BIOS upgrade? THIS is my point exactly. So much bluster and spread of misinformation.