Dell 2007WFP looks "grainy"

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I've just got a Dell 2007WFP, and when looking at a plain coloured background - esp. lighter colours, the image looks slightly grainy. Almost like the screen's a bit dirty (which it sin't).

This seems to be due to the screen itself - it is completely uniform and can't be change by any settings.

Is this a normal characteristic of this screen as I've not seen it with my previous TFT (TN film panel).

Anyone else noticed or do I have a defect, or am I being fussy?
 
saintly said:
I've just got a Dell 2007WFP, and when looking at a plain coloured background - esp. lighter colours, the image looks slightly grainy. Almost like the screen's a bit dirty (which it sin't).

This seems to be due to the screen itself - it is completely uniform and can't be change by any settings.

Is this a normal characteristic of this screen as I've not seen it with my previous TFT (TN film panel).

Anyone else noticed or do I have a defect, or am I being fussy?
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I have the same model as you and my previous one had that effect plus the screen got really hot really quick, had it swapped out by Dell and so far (touch wood) the replacement has been fine, apart from one tiny miscoloured pixel, which you can only see on a black screen.
 
I think you are refering to the anti-reflective coating that dell use on their screens.

You can read my post here when i first turned on my 2407 and found out the same thing as you have.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17654314

Its a shame people arent really aware of this before they buy the screen so at least when they turn it on for the first time they are expecting it. You will slowly learn to live with it. And no, i dont think your being fussy :)
 
I have this effect too on my 2007WFP. It's best described as 'sparkling' and as Humate says above, the consensus of opinion is that it seems to be down to the AR coating. I thought it was dirt on the screen to start with too, but it doesn't clean off. I only really notice it on light colours on static images, so I can live with it.

Mine doesn't get excessive hot for the record.
 
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Humate said:
I think you are refering to the anti-reflective coating that dell use on their screens.

You can read my post here when i first turned on my 2407 and found out the same thing as you have.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17654314

Its a shame people arent really aware of this before they buy the screen so at least when they turn it on for the first time they are expecting it. You will slowly learn to live with it. And no, i dont think your being fussy :)
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lol, I looked at you're linked image, but how would I know as I'm looking through this screen! I'll look at work.

If I know it's what it is supposed to look like, I'll just get used to it. I rang Dell and they said they'd replace it, but tbh the screen is perfect otherwise - no pixel defects and I can just see myself getting one with dead pixels as a replacement AND the grainy effect!

It is V noticeable though and I'm surprised I didn't see it in reviews.
 
i highly doubt u will see anything in that image i took, ignore that, just read the descriptions etc, im pretty sure it will just be the anti-reflective coating.

I had never seen it in any of the reviews either.
 
Got a replacement from Dell, even though I cancelled my order for a replacement after this thread! They said I could look at this one and then decide which one to send back, which was very nice of them. Actually they made a bit of a **** up and I could have got away with having 2 monitors!

The new one has the grainyness, or is sparkly, whichever you call it, but the image seems better - it;s a different panel I think from the model no. in the service menu. Maybe the grainyness is less, or maybe I'm just getting used to it. Don;t think it will bother me longterm anyway.

Appalling that no reviewers mention this though. It's the 1st thing you notice when switched on. Also surprised not to see many people mention it in this forum or others.

Otherwise the image quality is excellent and great viewing angles compare to TN panel I have before.
 
Different people notice different things though. I can easily use my 2007WFP for hours without noticing the sparkly thing at all, yet I find the black depth really poor, which no one else seems to notice (apart from Baddass in his review). I guess everyone has different tolerances for all these things.

Also there's two different 2007WFPs floating around - the IPS one (mine is IPS) and the PVA one, and then there's the three revisions, so they're not all the same.
 
The old was PVA and A02, the new is IPS (I think) and A03.

Happier with it though.

Also, I have to say, Dell are one of the best companies I've ever dealt with for customer service. That was my experience. Friendly and helpful.
 
saintly said:
It's the 1st thing you notice when switched on
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tell me about it. I used the adjective "rubbish" for the 2407 when i posted on here the day i switched my 2407 on. I got it in every orifice for that. I still think its rubbish. Yet somewhat paradoxically it is the best 24" monitor there is atm (not seen a decent benq review).

Personally I think a very large number of individuals get overawed by the size difference when they make the upgrade (lets face it not many downgrade from the 30", so generally its a step up for most people). Then the rest adopt what fish99 mentions and learn to tolerate it, mainly because they sit their gawping at their workspace (as i tend to do now) or games in 1920x1200... and lets face it, games do look really good on this screen.

Personally I think in the next 12 months the 24" arena will be flooded by other manufacturers, and then you will find no one recommending a 2407 except to budget users. Still, best not to wait that long, get out their and buy a 2407.
 
saintly said:
The old was PVA and A02, the new is IPS (I think) and A03.
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Ok, could be that the sparkle shows up more on the PVA panels for some reason. Mines A02 and IPS and from the descriptions above, I'm sure my sparkle isn't anywhere near as bad as some peoples.
 
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The grain isn't a problem at all, the IPS effect "sparkle" is not a problem either, it doesn't make colours look odd or anything and is only really visible on black colours.

You will start to not see the grain on the AR coating after the first week and you will begin to automatically ignore the sparkle when watching dark movies etc. The sparkle is evident on all IPS panels including the NEC GX 20" (mate has the NEC) - The other IPS ones like *** NEC however have something you can't really ignore, the glossy "opticlear" panel...unless you turn off the lights behind you or close the curtains!
 
The sparkling is pretty noticeable on the darker blue used on these forums. If you scroll down to the bottom of this page and look at the larger areas of blue, it's quite obvious there. It looks like very fine noise, pinky grey colour.

There's also another sparkling effect on light colours which looks like dirt on the screen but doesn't clean off. That sparkle doesn't shift rapidly about in the same way, but I guess it's still caused by the same thing.

Personally I don't mind either of these effects much, but everyone is different and has different tolerances, so if someone says it's a big deal to them then I completely accept that. Just like how the black depth and movie noise bothers me but not everyone else.
 
yep, its still a good monitor though. However, when something better comes along without these problems, it will be some of the first things people point out, instead of the very last.
 
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You mean apart from the fact that colours look like their shining through a layer of pink/grey/black glitter? For me, that is a problem.
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I don't know what the quality testing was like on your dell but on mine there are no issues whatsoever, certainly not to the levels some people are complaining and I've had 2 2007WFP panels both being the same.

Besides I think most can agree that a little sparkle that gets automatically ignored after you've gotten at home with the TFT is much better than backlight bleeding or whining noises :p
 
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mrk said:
I don't know what the quality testing was like on your dell but on mine there are no issues whatsoever, certainly not to the levels some people are complaining and I've had 2 2007WFP panels both being the same.

Besides I think most can agree that a little sparkle that gets automatically ignored after you've gotten at home with the TFT is much better than backlight bleeding or whining noises :p
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I've had 2, which were completely different panels, ie one PVA one IPS and different revisions, they both have this effect, so I ain't imagining it. Have you not compared to other screens?
 
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