Dell 2407FWP Video Quality

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I have to say that you may be disappointed watching standard definition video files on this monitor. I viewed a number of DVDs on it, and whilst the picture was OK, it is much worse than the 25" CRT we got for free because somebody no longer wanted it. I downloaded some high definition videos and they looked superb, but standard definition was grainy and distorted. It was even ghosting badly on some scenes! :eek: I think however that the ghosting and blurring can be avoided by changing to another image mode. It certainly wasn't a constant problem and I was fiddling around with settings for ages. Can't be arsed to go and confirm my theory though! :p

I imagine an upscaling DVD player would dramatically improve DVD quality. Anybody know about this? If not, do not intend to use this as your movies screen. You would be better off popping down to your local second-hand store and grabbing an old telly for £20...
 
How have to you connected your video source ?

I dont like my freeview box connected to this via s-video .... Not great scaling. But connected via DVI it was absolutely fantastic.

Setting sharpness to 30 apparently gets rid of a lot of jaggies and sparklies which may be noticed in SD feeds.
 
I don't have the 2407WFP, I've got the 2007WFP so this may not be strictly relevant, but I found that SD DVDs looked fairly awful through windows, but a lot better through my 360, which suggests to me that software DVD playback through windows is doing a really poor job of upscaling and is adding significant noise.
 
I'd heard that the 360 improves things a lot fish99, glad to see you can confirm that. :)

How do I alter sharpness in DVI mode? I have no troubles doing it on the VGA connection, but when I am using the DVI source the option is unavailable. :S
 
Do you need to use a standalone player? A DVD with a resolution of 720x576 upscaled to 1920x1200 would look awful blurry.

Can you not just use your PC and use some software upscaling and sharpening filters? ffdshow springs to mind
 
I have ffdshow installed on this computer. Has anybody configured it specifically for this screen, or used other software to the same end?
 
Duel said:
I have ffdshow installed on this computer. Has anybody configured it specifically for this screen, or used other software to the same end?

I've not configured it for this screen, but may have to in the future (if i don't stop looking at buying a 24" LCD :p)

I've configured it for other 4:3 displays, so i guess configuring it for 16:10 should be the same.

What do you want to do with it? I can walk you through it.
 
Thanks!

I have the aspect ratio of 16:10 configured fine but how can I improve the quality of the video? Also, it starts automatically when I play certain file types through WinDVD but how do I make it do so for VLC and WMP?

On my Samsung Syncmaster 930BF the picture quality was great but on this Dell every video is like an old VCD! :(
 
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Duel said:
Thanks!

I have the aspect ratio of 16:10 configured fine but how can I improve the quality of the video? Also, it starts automatically when I play certain file types through WinDVD but how do I make it do so for VLC and WMP?

On my Samsung Syncmaster 930BF the picture quality was great but on this Dell every video is like an old VCD! :(

If you go to the codecs tab, and on the Format column, go to Raw Video and put that to all supported. What this does is it allows ffdshow to post process any video which has been decoded. For example, if the WinDVD mpeg2 decoder is default, whenever you play a mpeg2 stream, ffdshow should pop up. You can choose to decode mpeg2 with libavcodec or libmpeg2 by selected the decoder type next to mpeg2 in the same menu.

THere are a ton of filters in ffdshow and you won't probably be using them all so you can go to show / hide filters to remove them from the menu. FYI, i have half of the filters hidden.

Also, if you select a filter from the left hand side menu, you will notice small arrows next to the text of the filter pop up. These are important as they move the priority that the filters will be applied. The filters nearer the top are applied first (if ticked) and the filters at the bottom are applied last. You can move the priority up and down by pressing on the small arrows. An example of priority would be to resizing and noise reduction. If say you resize to 1920x1200 first then apply noise reduction, the noise reduction would have to work on a larger area (higher CPU load) than it would have if you did noise reduciton first. Also, the noise reduction could blur some of the details that you sharpened whilst resizing the image.

Improving the quality of the video is all a bit subjective as people prefer different filters and different settings. However, improving the video quality can be broken down in to three parts (IMO):

1. Sharpening.
There are a few main ways to sharpen in ffdshow. The first way (and my preferd option) is to upscale the image. To do this if you go to the Resize and Aspect option and tick all the necessary options that you want. Importantly go into the settings bit of Resize and Aspect. Make sure that the method is Lanczos and then change the number of taps and the sharpen sliders to what you prefer. Secondly, there is the sharpen filter itself. I've always found unsharp mask to be the best one of these but again, you should experiment to see what you find the best. There's a DScaler filter that peforms sharpening but i never use it. Lastly, there is the WarpSharp filter. This is broken in some versions, but it is excellent for sharpening animation (i only use it for animation)

2. Noise Reduction
This is good for noisy dvd sources in particular. If you go into the Blur and NR option and denoise 3d and tick HQ. You should then set the three settings to your own tastes.

3. Colour
If your finding it dark it movies, you can adjust the colour, brightness and gamma etc through, Levels, Picture properties or Overlay (if you have this setting).

Hope this helps you get started. ffdshow is very powerful once you know what it can do...
 
Cheers for that info!

I've tried mucking around with the settings as per your instructions. Unfortunately it is proving to be extremely difficult for me to find a happy medium between a picture sharpened to a blur and a pixellated mess. I've spent hours trying to sort it out but nothing seems to produce a satisfactory picture.

Very disappointed with this. Am tempted to sell it on a famous auction site now... :(
 
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