Dell 2407wfp....HD?

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Hi guys just got my new 2407 and love it......When i start the display config from the nvidia control panel....It asks if the display outputs HD....and not to select it if the monitor doesant suport it as it may damage it......dont want to damage it...does the 2407 output in HD?


Thanks
 
it has a high enough resolution to support it, but probably no need to select it cus you can manually select 1920 x 1200 res from the settings. If you choose the HD options it will just auto set the display at the required resolution, that being 1280 x 720 for 720p or 1920 x 1080 for 1080i/p....so i'd prob choose "no" and set it up manually :)
 
Whats the difference between i and p btw since the res is the same? I am also confused with all the HD jargon since I got my dell :)
 
i is an interlaced signal, whereas p is progressive scan. As a summary, 1080p is better than 1080i....which is why at the mo 1080i is more common. have a google of search on wikipedia for more :)
 
When I view a trailer from apple 1080p on the pc with quicktime, I watch true 1080p the same as the latest DVD players?
 
drak3 said:
When I view a trailer from apple 1080p on the pc with quicktime, I watch true 1080p the same as the latest DVD players?

having to be careful on this one.....watching 1080p trailers on a 2407WFP via your PC?? hmmmm. From what i remember, the 2407WFP has a problem with 1080i (interlaced) content since the controller chip cannot handle the de-interlacing process. However, progressive scan content at 720p is fine, and in theory, 1080p should be fine. There has been some confusion about 1080i and 1080p support on the 2407WFP, but i believe a 1080p trailer from a PC should show properly. After all, the screen can support the 1920 x 1080 resolution of the content, and the controller chip can handle progressive scan. Check out this article for a little more on it....
 
Baddass said:
having to be careful on this one.....watching 1080p trailers on a 2407WFP via your PC?? hmmmm. From what i remember, the 2407WFP has a problem with 1080i (interlaced) content since the controller chip cannot handle the de-interlacing process. However, progressive scan content at 720p is fine, and in theory, 1080p should be fine. There has been some confusion about 1080i and 1080p support on the 2407WFP, but i believe a 1080p trailer from a PC should show properly. After all, the screen can support the 1920 x 1080 resolution of the content, and the controller chip can handle progressive scan. Check out this article for a little more on it....

My 2407 (A04) can display 1080p over DVI and VGA (tested using VGA cable on XBox 360). Now - the killer - 1080i. I will hopefully be testing this on the weekend using a PS3 going through DVI. I know there have been mixed reports about this - so as it stands I don't hold out much hope. In reality 1080p is good enough anyway so I'm not that arsed
 
One thing I still don't understand is the 1:1 pixel mapping with 1080 sources. If I'm understanding correctly, this means that, when fed with a 1920x1080 signal, the screen will map this directly to screen pixels, resulting in black bars at the top and bottom of the screen, each 60 pixels high?

Surely whether this is desirable depends on the aspect ratio of the source? When displaying 1920x1080 as described above, the image would have an aspect ratio of 1.78:1 or 16:9. This is fine if the source material is 1.78:1 aspect but what if it's a 2.35:1 widescreen movie from something like a Bluray or HD-DVD box? In this case the image will be compressed horizontally and look totally wrong.

In this latter case, you'd actually want the screen to compress the image vertically so it only used 817 of the vertical pixels, producing black bars each around 192 pixels high and only using 68% of the screen area. Can the monitor do this?

When playing HD content through a PC, the signal fed to the monitor will always be the full 1920x1200 that's configured in Windows' display properties, it'd be up to the media player used to scale the content to this size, thus rendering 1:1 pixel mapping inconsequential.
 
Vertigo1 said:
One thing I still don't understand is the 1:1 pixel mapping with 1080 sources. If I'm understanding correctly, this means that, when fed with a 1920x1080 signal, the screen will map this directly to screen pixels, resulting in black bars at the top and bottom of the screen, each 60 pixels high?

Surely whether this is desirable depends on the aspect ratio of the source? When displaying 1920x1080 as described above, the image would have an aspect ratio of 1.78:1 or 16:9. This is fine if the source material is 1.78:1 aspect but what if it's a 2.35:1 widescreen movie from something like a Bluray or HD-DVD box? In this case the image will be compressed horizontally and look totally wrong.

In this latter case, you'd actually want the screen to compress the image vertically so it only used 817 of the vertical pixels, producing black bars each around 192 pixels high and only using 68% of the screen area. Can the monitor do this?

When playing HD content through a PC, the signal fed to the monitor will always be the full 1920x1200 that's configured in Windows' display properties, it'd be up to the media player used to scale the content to this size, thus rendering 1:1 pixel mapping inconsequential.

If you run a hd source through the monitor such as an xbox360 the monitor won't use 1:1 mapping (although on the A04 revision you can) it'll just stretch the image 60px each way, which I can't even notice.
 
Vertigo1 said:
Surely whether this is desirable depends on the aspect ratio of the source? When displaying 1920x1080 as described above, the image would have an aspect ratio of 1.78:1 or 16:9. This is fine if the source material is 1.78:1 aspect but what if it's a 2.35:1 widescreen movie from something like a Bluray or HD-DVD box?

In this latter case, you'd actually want the screen to compress the image vertically so it only used 817 of the vertical pixels, producing black bars each around 192 pixels high and only using 68% of the screen area. Can the monitor do this?
The monitor doesn't need to. Movies in 2.35:1 aren't really in 2.35:1, they're in 16:9 and the 'black borders' you would see on a 16:9 TV set are actually part of the encoded picture. To put it another way, if you took a frame from a 2.35:1 movie and decoded it - the black bars would be there on the frame. Just like when widescreen VHS movies first came along before widescreen TVs existed, and the movies were in letterbox format on a 4:3 frame, with the black bars part of the image.
 
TheDean said:
My 2407 (A04) can display 1080p over DVI and VGA (tested using VGA cable on XBox 360). Now - the killer - 1080i. I will hopefully be testing this on the weekend using a PS3 going through DVI. I know there have been mixed reports about this - so as it stands I don't hold out much hope. In reality 1080p is good enough anyway so I'm not that arsed

thanks for confirming, i thought 1080p should be ok. dont hold much hope for interlaced sources though :(
 
Baddass said:
thanks for confirming, i thought 1080p should be ok. dont hold much hope for interlaced sources though :(

Yeah. I think you're right about the chip. Interlaced seems too complicated for it to handle - hence why so many have had issues. In real world situations I very much doubt I'd be able to notice the difference between 1080i and 1080p anyway.

1080p over VGA (XBox 360) looks awesome though. I was hoping it would. I was playing Gears of War last night and it was staggering! I can reccomend the 2407 A04 with the 360 definately!
 
Im playing my 360 at the minute through my 2407....what the best settings to have 480p ,720p , 1080p , 1080i :confused:


I dont want to damage me screen

Thanks
 
J273 said:
Im playing my 360 at the minute through my 2407....what the best settings to have 480p ,720p , 1080p , 1080i :confused:


I dont want to damage me screen

Thanks
1080p
 
What will happen if you use a 1080i input? reason being i was asking this on another thread that I have a HD camcorder I'd like to playback through it (which is that output)
 
without meaning to hijack this thread, is it easy to just get a 360 and plug it into your dell 2407??

i've bought the 2407 after my old CRT blew up but i'm umming and ahhing about getting a 360.

i don't have a HD TV and was wondering if you can simply connect a 360 to the monitor. if so do you have to buy any special cables?


currently i'm just running the monitor from my PC via DVI-D.
 
setter said:
just for interest my lcd monitor, vx2025 is it ok for 720p hi def

it's got the vertical resolution to support 720p content, but the screen doesnt have HDCP support, so playing HDCP encrypted sources (HD DVD players etc) won't work on it
 
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