Dell not using AMD cpus

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Intel-AMD duopoly is a long way off

While AMD's Ryzen chips are rather good, Dell EMC is not particularly interested and will remain loyal to Chipzilla.

According to Channel Pro,while Dell EMC has integrated AMD processors into workstations, all-in-one devices and even servers, its CTO, John Roese, said that these products would be an exception within Dell’s lineup, and the company won't offer large numbers of AMD-powered machines any time soon.

“Intel is the big player, AMD is the second player. There's enough diversity between them that there are use cases to have them both in our portfolio, but just the sheer breadth of the Intel processor portfolio is massive compared to even the accelerated AMD world.”

According to Roese, while AMD still absolutely has a place in the processor market, the number of different models offered by Intel means that there is little value in producing an AMD-powered variant of every product in its portfolio.

“AMD is doing some interesting things, and by adding them to the portfolio, we pick up a few extra areas. But let's be clear: there is a huge, dominant player in computing semiconductors, and then there is a challenger who is doing some good innovative work called AMD, but the gap between them is quite large regarding market share and use-cases. So our portfolio is not going to change in any meaningful way. Don't expect it to be a duopoly anytime soon.”

That is slightly depressing news, it means that no matter if AMD produces really good chips, Dell EMC will always shovel coal for Intel.

from fudzilla - AMD's Ryzen not for a Dell

You just have to look at the top members comment to get the picture lol.

 

[IT Troll]

It is impossible to compete with those backhanders rebates. Even if the processors were free.

 

[Glanza]

Dell are never going to turn down free money for staying with Intel.

 

[d_brennen]

Dell have earned billions from Intel slush and no doubt individual execs have pocketed plenty of money for making the "right" choices.

If I were running Dell I'd be worried about a possible total Intel monopoly and push as many AMD and ARM devices I could.

AMDs other issue, aside from Intel's fat wallet, is that they are fabless and rely heavily on Global Flounderies (poor track record) and to a lesser extent TSMC (no spare capacity at the mo). You might want to buy X amount of AMD CPUs per quarter, and if they can't meet that then you're stuffed. Intel have capacity to spare

 

[C-Roy]

It is impossible to compete with those backhanders rebates. Even if the processors were free.

Pretty much

 

[humbug]

This thread needs this video to understand the history between AMD and Dell.

I have to say i am surprised Dell have not learned anything at all from their own history.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Its Dell EMC,ie,their server people. Quite hilarious when Baidu,MS and QNAP are earlier adopters of Zen based CPUs. It makes me wonder,whether they are worried if they offer cheaper AMD based systems,whether they will have to start dropping prices on the Intel ones too!

 

[humbug]

HPE, Cisco and others seem solidly onboard with AMD.

At the end of the day there are many, infinitely more players in that industry now, its now massive, vast and Intel cannot pay them all off not to use AMD's products, if Intel tried that now with the size of the industry as it is now they would be bankrupt in a few weeks.

Dell and Intel's shenanigans no longer matter.

 

[humbug]

HPE, Cisco and others seem solidly onboard with AMD.

At the end of the day there are many, infinitely more players in that industry now, its now massive, vast and Intel cannot pay them all off not to use AMD's products, if Intel tried that now with the size of the industry as it is now they would be bankrupt in a few weeks.

Dell and Intel's shenanigans no longer matter.

Dell get free chips and backhanders but Intel gain nothing, other than losing the money they are giving away to Dell, this time Intel cannot stop AMD from selling their products, the industry is too big for Intel to bribe.

 

[sideways14a]

Its fair enough the point about Intel producing far more products, but... its not an excuse for dell to sideline AMD to the odd pc or two.
This kind of nonsense wont stand these days, it might have 15 years ago but now... Dell better watch what they are doing.

We stopped buying Dell desktops over a year ago and moved to HP, i look forward to seeing HP stuff in the future with AMD processors and what not in them.

 

[mistersprinkles]

Intel has a fund of dirty dirty money that it gives to dirty dirty OEM's in exchange for loyalty and exclusivity. AMD has no such fund. Sell PC's with exclusively intel CPUs, get free money!

 

[muon]

Isn't threadripper/epyc the best bit about ryzen? Better total performance for a fraction of the price.

Also impacted a lot less by recently revealed exploits. Intel requiring fixes which seriously affect data thoroughput.

 

[TrixP10]

Its fair enough the point about Intel producing far more products, but... its not an excuse for dell to sideline AMD to the odd pc or two.
This kind of nonsense wont stand these days, it might have 15 years ago but now... Dell better watch what they are doing.

We stopped buying Dell desktops over a year ago and moved to HP, i look forward to seeing HP stuff in the future with AMD processors and what not in them.

ssssshhh

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/dell-inspiron-17-5000-amd-ryzen-vega,36612.html

 

[sideways14a]

Thats super, i just ordered two of the 5000s a couple of weeks back...
Complete with crap intel chips....

ohh well the next wont be.

 

[Geck0]

Dell can fluff their server bottom line for about 2 years with this **** before their competitors undermine them enough that the Intel money fails to compensate. This is not even taking into account the future business they may have lost, which at this point will be exponentially bad and on a bell curve. *EO class muppets start bailing with golden parachutes and the business does whatever it does to reinvent itself to regain lost market share. Dell has been here before, no lessons learned it seems. Maybe this time they will go the way of Gateway 2000.

Being an ex DEC employee from the early 90's I don't have a high opinion of any of the OEM stuff now. Back then we sold standard desktop computers to Mount Isa Mines who used them many km underground in shocking conditions for years on end without issue. Every DEC PC design went through a "shake & bake" test. Not so now.

edit: grammar