Dell UltraSharp U2410

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Hi,

I recently built a computer (specs in sig) but haven't got a monitor/keyboard/mouse/speakers yet.

What do you think of this monitor:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-036-DE

Obviously the reviews are very good, so I was just wondering, anyone had any issues with it?


Thanks :)

EDIT: Hmmmmmm, I thought it was 1920 x 1080 but just noticed that it isn't, is this a big issue or not?
 
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azibux1 said:
Hi,

I recently built a computer (specs in sig) but haven't got a monitor/keyboard/mouse/speakers yet.

What do you think of this monitor:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-036-DE

Obviously the reviews are very good, so I was just wondering, anyone had any issues with it?


Thanks :)

EDIT: Hmmmmmm, I thought it was 1920 x 1080 but just noticed that it isn't, is this a big issue or not?
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These are really good. I'm considering getting a third. ATM I'm running two in portrait and they are lovely, build quality is only next to Eizo and other Dell monitors imho. - the premium is based on the 3 year warranty. Unlike other brands you will find a handful of problems all of which were covered in 1-2 working days replacement by Dell.

Also shop around they are at least £50 cheaper but you will miss OCUK customer service elsewhere ;)

If you can afford it the Ultrasharps are the best in OCUK offerings, in particular the [U2410, U2711 and the U3011]

Edit: if you are interested in multi-monitor gaming for cheap maybe consider 3 x U2311H or 3 x U2410 in portrait :D
 
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inSilica said:
Edit: if you are interested in multi-monitor gaming for cheap maybe consider 3 x U2311H or 3 x U2410 in portrait :D
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And the OP would also need to invest in a new graphics card or cards for multi-monitor gaming.


inSilica said:
These are really good. I'm considering getting a third.
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Likewise you'll likely need to make some changes to run 3 monitors if you're still using the HD 4850.
 
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well yes, the 4850 will go into my HTPC, I have a 5770 [2 DVI + DP] (not a gamer obviously), I could use this for the 3 monitor setup but then again I really want to upgrade to SB-e first
 
Hi all,


Thanks for the replies :D

I will mainly be using the PC for day-to-day use, college work, programming, watching movies and the occasional game, 95% of my gaming will be done on the PS3 instead.

I did 'consider' two identical smaller monitors, but then I thought that I would like one large one instead :D :D It will be connected to my TV too, so if I wanted to have two screens I could, :)

I will have the monitor connected via a DVI-D cable from the DVI-I port on the graphics card to the DVI-D port on the monitor. Then I will also have my TV connected to the graphics card via the mini HDMI port on the graphics card.

That should all work shouldnt it?

Thanks for the link to the Hazro but I wouldn't really want the monitor much bigger than 24" anyway, plus I think Dell would be a more reliable make, because being honest I have never heard of Hazro :p

And thanks for the info about shoppiing around, sorry OcUK, but I will be sure to shop around :p

Thanks for your help
 
Can anyone recommend a monitor other than the U2410, preferably full HD, similar size and Dell (or any other well known brand) ?? And cheaper the better, but it should last a long time so don't mind spending a bit of money now if I have to, to get a good one :D

What do you think of the Dell UltraSharp U2412M? Anyone used one?



Thanks,

EDIT: What the monitor will be used for, is mentioned in the above post :D
 
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The U2410 is a great monitor. A huge improvement from the 22" TN panel I had before, despite the increased latency. It's not perfect, though. There's a common issue where the colour changes ever so slightly from left to right, most noticeable on a white screen. I haven't seen anything better out there. The Hazro 27" looks promising but a bit demanding for gaming.

Maybe consider the U2412M - it's quite a bit cheaper. The panel isn't as bright and is only 8-bit not 10-bit but it doesn't make much difference in practical terms. As always, check out the reviews. But you won't go wrong with the U2410. It's just a bit expensive.
 
Another happy U2410 user here.

I've had it for about 3-4 months now and it is an amazing monitor. The build quality is great. I also have a Hyundai 24" which is a good screen but the dell is much better.

I use it for programming, photo editing and gaming.

Any regrets? Yes, should have bought it earlier. :)
 
You wont be disappointed with the DELL it's a fantastic quality monitor.

Plus you have the satisfying reassuance of DELL's premium monitor warranty - if it develops a fault DELL will bring a replacement to your door and take the faulty one away (so your never without a monitor). Totally hassle free returns for 3 years...
 
Thanks for all your replies :D


Stulid what are the advantages of the IPS one? :confused:

Seems a lot of people are happy with the U2410 then, and the fact that it is not 1920 x 1080 doesn't seem to bother anyone :D

I'll have a read-around of reviews, but I think I will probably end up going for the U2410.

I also like the sound of the Dell warranty :D
 
You do realise the U2410 is an IPS display right? ...the 23" models are just smaller 16:9 IPS panels. Basically from a user point of view this means, as opposed to a TN display, vastly superior viewing angles and much better colour reproduction. In a nutshell anyway.

I would say that unless you particularly want the wide colour gamut that the U2410 offers then I would actually suggest the U2412M which has a standard colour gamut.

The U2412M is not an 8 bit panel though and the U2410 is not a 10 bit panel either, the U2412M is 6 bit + FRC and the U2410 is 8 bit + FRC which amounts to much the same thing as 8 bit and 10 bit. However, You can't take advantage of 10 bit colour without an end to end 10 bit setup ...including the application colour spaces you are using. Thus going beyond 8 bit is largely pointless and somewhat academic in most cases.

What is more important though is the issue of the wide colour gamut on the U2410, if you don't know that you need it then you almost certainly do not, now to achieve a normal sRGB colour space the U2410 uses an sRGB emulation mode ...which I have heard mixed thoughts about. The U2412M is native sRGB so no emulation mode.

Now in all likelihood if you put the U2410 into sRGB emulation mode they should look pretty damn similar, if you don't the colours will look oversaturate except in colour managed programs that are compatible with the extended colour gamut.

What I am saying is that the U2410 is only really worth the extra cost over the U2412M if you know that you need the extra features you are paying for. Which is mainly the extended colour gamut and the ability to support 10bit colour.

The only other thing of any real relevance is the fact the U2410 uses CCFL back lighting and the U2412M uses LED. There are various schools of thought on this, but the general consensus seems to be that high grade CCFL is superior ultimately. But well implemented LED can be very good aswell. LED's also have the added advantage of using significantly less power and producing a good deal less heat that CCFL's.

It's really a matter of what you want to do with the monitor, if you want a quality desktop monitor to use for regular desktop things, gaming, watching videos, internet, looking at photos and maybe a bit of home photo editing ...etc. Basically you just want a nice monitor, then the U2412M has you covered. The U2410 has some capabilities the U2412M does not ...but they do come at a price and weather or not you need them is really something only you can answer ...but I think that if you do, you wouldn't need to ask us.

Oh and finally, the fact that both the U2410 and the U2412M are 16:10 displays, i.e. 1920x1200 is considered an advantage and the de-facto standard with these kind of monitors, the 16:9 shift has really been something that's been common in lower end mass market stuff ...although there are quite a few 16:9 23" IPS panels now. These 24" models remain 16:10 though and may that long remain the case, as it's generally accepted to be a good thing for desktop work.

My recommendation is the U2412M if you aren't sure, as I said you would know if you needed the feartures of the U2410. And then you would be here asking us weather you shoud buy that, the HP LP2475 or the Asus PA246Q instead, which are all extended colour gamut displays. About the only standard colour gamut 16:10 24" display I can think of on the market is the HP ZR24w. ...although that is about to be replaced with one of HP's new models I believe, which will likely be LED as opposed to CCFL and probably 6 bit + FRC rather than 8 bit, weather this are for better or worse remains to be seen though.

I have owned both the outgoing HP ZR24w and I am using the Dell U2412M and although they are very comparable I do think the Dell has the edge in most regards ...despite it being arguably at a disadvatnaeg on paper.
 
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I was torn between the U2410 and U2412M monitors. In the end I decided the little extras on the U2410 were not worth the extra money so settled with the U2412M.

Will let you know whether i made the right choice when i receive it on Friday. Big step up from the old Fujitsu monitor im currently running. Graphics card is the Nvidia GTX460.
 
Thanks for your replies :D

And thanks Moeks for that VERY in-depth explanation / reply :D

I have decided to go with the U2412M, based on what a couple of you have said about "If you need to ask, that means you don't need the features", which makes sense, as if I went for the U2410 I would be paying for a lot of things I would never use / get the most out of.

So I will go for the U2412M, I just wanted to check a few things:

Question 1

Will my GeForce GTX 460 1024MB be fine with the 1920 x 1200 resolution of the monitor?

I am fairly sure it will be, and Goldy has said he has ordered the U2412M and he too has a GTX 460, but I just thought I'd check before I buy the monitor, as I wasn't sure if Goldy's GTX 460 was maybe overclocked or anything.

So will my GFX card and the U2412M be fine together?

Question 2

My graphics card has two DVI-I Dual Link ports, and one mini HDMI port.

Can someone just check that what I want to do will work (mainly the DVI-I / DVI-D part):

I will have a mini HDMI to HDMI cable from the GFX card to my TV

and

A DVI-D cable between the GFX card and the U2412M


That is right isn't it?

I was just wondering about the graphics card being DVI-I and the monitor being DVI-D, because on my mobo's IO panel there is a DVI-D, and when I compare that to the DVI-I on my GFX card the 'slit' on the DVI-D seems fatter than the 'slit' on the DVI-I, so I just wanted to check that a DVI-D cable will actually fit into the DVI-I port on my GFX card?

Question 3

Can anyone recommend a good quality, relatively cheap and slim wall mount for this monitor?

Question 4

Does anyone know if the DVI-D port on the U2412M is male or female, so I can get the cable in advance rather than waiting for the monitor to arrive?

Thanks for all your help everyone, :D,
 
You're most welcome :)

Question 1: Yes it will be fine (although it does rather depend what you are going to ask it to do at that resolution).

Question 2: Yep that will work fine, although are you sure it's not a mini displayport? ...if it is it wont work, you will need to use a DVI>HDMI cable or converter (most graphics cards come with the converter) to do it from the second DVI port.

Using a DVI-D cable you will be fine. You can't connect a male DVI-I connector to a female DVI-D one though. But this shouldn't be an issue for you, you will get a DVI-D cable with the monitor.

Question 3: Errr not really no, somewhat else can probably help you with this one though. The large rainforest place has lots of them though, I do know that.

Question 4: The DVI-D port on the monitor will be female, but it comes with the correct cable anyway, it comes with all the cables you will need, even a USB one to use the USB hub.
 
After a quick read-thru I agree with all the advice given....

the U2412M is definitely the monitor to go for out of the two.

The U2410 is a lovely piece of kit but it'd be overkill if your main concern is gaming as you would never benefit from the extra features it offers over the U2412M.

Plus the 2412M has lower lag and slightly better responsiveness the the 2410 which you will benefit from during gaming.

As soon as my Dell 2407 packs in I will be replacing it with the U2412M
 
Moeks said:
You're most welcome :)

Question 1: Yes it will be fine (although it does rather depend what you are going to ask it to do at that resolution).

Question 2: Yep that will work fine, although are you sure it's not a mini displayport? ...if it is it wont work, you will need to use a DVI>HDMI cable or converter (most graphics cards come with the converter) to do it from the second DVI port.

Using a DVI-D cable you will be fine. You can't connect a male DVI-I connector to a female DVI-D one though. But this shouldn't be an issue for you, you will get a DVI-D cable with the monitor.

Question 3: Errr not really no, somewhat else can probably help you with this one though. The large rainforest place has lots of them though, I do know that.

Question 4: The DVI-D port on the monitor will be female, but it comes with the correct cable anyway, it comes with all the cables you will need, even a USB one to use the USB hub.
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Thanks :D

ghutchison14078 said:
After a quick read-thru I agree with all the advice given....

the U2412M is definitely the monitor to go for out of the two.

The U2410 is a lovely piece of kit but it'd be overkill if your main concern is gaming as you would never benefit from the extra features it offers over the U2412M.

Plus the 2412M has lower lag and slightly better responsiveness the the 2410 which you will benefit from during gaming.

As soon as my Dell 2407 packs in I will be replacing it with the U2412M
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Sounds like I made the right choice then :D



Now I just need to shop around for a good price :D
 
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