Deneb Pricing

[The Halk]

According to an article I've read here -

http://www.eetimes.com/news/semi/sh...TWBJ4KQSNDLPCKHSCJUNN2JVN?articleID=212300037

Deneb pricing seems to be rather competitive.

The article does mention prices from Intel and AMD, however they're in dollars and they're the bulk prices for OEMs, not the prices we pay. However assuming there's some kind of relation between them....

EET 965 (3.2Ghz) $999 OcUK £822 1.21
EET 920 (2.66Ghz) $284 OcUK £240 1.18

So the OcUK price seems to be roughly 20% less in £ than the $ price. If that holds for the Denebs...

EET Deneb 3.0Ghz $275 £220
EET DEneb 2.8Ghz $235 £188

That's a huge price difference between Denebs and i7s.

But of course this is all just guesswork.

 

[The Halk]

Up to 5% increase in speed from DDR2 to DDR3 for Deneb, according to Fudzilla.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10821&Itemid=1

It means cheap motherboards for the AMD quads, and cheap memory. 140 quid saved on a motherboard (at most). 4GB for the price of 3GB.

Still doesn't take the performance crown from Intel. But it looks to be price/performance wise AM2+ is the socket to go for...

But again this is all guesswork until we see benchmarks and product in shops.

 

[The Halk]

Including VAT I can see competitors listing the Phenom II 940 BE (Deneb at 3.0Ghz) at between £220 and £240.

Hopefully OcUK will have a preorder up soon. I'm getting severely tempted to go for a SB750 board and 4GB of ram for a few hundred quid upgrade to a 940.

 

[The Halk]

These seem a bit expensive to me
£230 cpu + £100 motherboard

Would I be better of spending the £330 on a quick 45nm quad then this?

Might be better to just stick with my Q6600 and push it higher till it fails lol.

Well, of course they're expensive if you have to buy a motherboard for AMD and compare that to Intel.

Can't see any point upgrading from a Q6600 though, at the moment.

 

[The Halk]

"Dragon" and "Phenom" sound good, then again "Nephalem" sounds good too. I don't like the "Smithfield" and "Prescott" etc names that Intel come up with. My all time favourite is "ClawHammer". Who doesn't want a processor that's called ClawHammer?

Despite all logic there's a certain attraction to the names of the platform and CPU. I'm on a few different kinds of painkillers just now. The Codeine doesn't sound like much, but the Voltarol, that comes right out and says "I'm going to kill all the pain, I am the Mighty Voltarol". Even though it turns out the Codeine is actually an Opiate and much stronger, and the Voltarol is just beefed up ibuprofen.

 

[The Halk]

Yeah, retailers have started adding them to their online stores, and google has a few indexed. I emailed one asking when I'd get it if I ordered now, in the hope they could say if it was a mid December launch (as rumoured) or the 8th Jan (as previously said).

Edit : I'm on prescription Codeine which is 30mg rather than the 8mg you can get over the counter. I'm in my happy place thanks to all the painkillers.

 

[The Halk]

I'm no expert on it, but a bit of comment I didn't like hearing was that since temps were so low water may not make much of a difference to the maximum overclock. I'm on water

The air cooling they've been doing though has been on stock coolers, and as far as I know they've not gone to great lengths to cool the VRM, which apparently is a stumbling block.

My 940 II will be on full custom water, so I'm hopeful of exceeding 4Ghz by a fair margin. Bleeding cost a fortune to get a VRM block for it :/

Something that surprised me was benches shown at the presentation (the i7 machine was verified as not crippled) with Crysis framerates higher on the Phenom than the top i7. That'll be surprising if it's true.